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This is why Bryce Young undoubtedly is QB1


Ivory Panther
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1 minute ago, Varking said:

Pat White is the only QB I can recall who played at a similar weight and he got crunched.

Didn't they not use him as a full time QB?  I keep thinking he was converted to WR but struggled.  Maybe I am thinking about Armanti Edwards who was also a similar size?

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20 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

If I were a team without an OL, I would want Stroud--but if we can keep Young protected, he is the best choice.

Nothing against Stroud--I just do not trust the Ohio St offense to give us a true indication of his processing, vision of the field, etc.

The kept talking about how Young slows down the game--that is huge.

Stroud's stock is very high right now--great game vs. UGA, good combine, pro day....do you buy inflated stock?

Yeah his stock is definitely inflated due to his 85 TDs to 12 INTs in two seasons as a starter. Dump the stock, I say(!)

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29 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Stroud's stock is very high right now--great game vs. UGA, good combine, pro day....do you buy inflated stock?

 

Hmmm!!!  C.J. Stroud  threw 4+ TD passes in 7 out of 13 games last season.

One can hardly call that inflated stock.

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47 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think anyone doubts that he can potentially thrive in the NFL. But for how long?

If this guy gets broken in half in his second start the media dunking is gonna be ferocious.

That’s my point, none of the numerous former NFL players that rave about Young have those concerns. It’s the twitter and message board coaches.

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