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NFL insider: Brian Burns' extension could be close to Myles Garrett's deal

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1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

Exactly, you have nothing other than he is one of the Panthers best players. He was the 7th highest graded player by PFF on our D last season. 

Its not negative to point out a players strengths and weaknesses. The good news is we have an actual NFL coaching staff who should put our players in the best spots to succeed. 

exactly, those dudes just dont want to hear the truth and they talk poo about us.  We have both already said we have to pay him but they fail to acknowledge that.  Fitt painted his ass into a corner and hopefully burns and his agent go easy on him.  Anything close to 30 or over would be insanity

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Just now, PootieNunu said:

You can tell who watches other football games and who only watches Panther games.

You would think Burns was taking over games when in reality he has never done that. 

Biggest game of his life and he shits the bed.  Heres the pff thread.  The highlights are on youtube and its him being single blocked and ran at

 

 

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5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Biggest game of his life and he shits the bed.  Heres the pff thread.  The highlights are on youtube and its him being single blocked and ran at

 

 

The dude literally scored lower than Sam Darnold, but he is elite? Its laughable.

The problem is when the trade offer was turned down they basically handed Burns a blank check. He will probably become the highest paid defensive player in history when he signs and that is just crazy. Fitt and co are pretty much fuged on this one. 

These same guys will be on here high-fiving and grab-assing when we give him 28-30m per. 

 

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32 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

The dude literally scored lower than Sam Darnold, but he is elite? Its laughable.

The problem is when the trade offer was turned down they basically handed Burns a blank check. He will probably become the highest paid defensive player in history when he signs and that is just crazy. Fitt and co are pretty much fuged on this one. 

These same guys will be on here high-fiving and grab-assing when we give him 28-30m per. 

 

I hope so just to piss you off.

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Reddick is now regarded as the best solution to our problems but at the time when he was still here many people complained about his run defense. There is merit to some of the criticisms of Burns but this whole discussion has reached a point where some folks just clearly want him gone and want to see what our pass rush looks like. And if they got their wish they would bitch about it endlessly when we're getting carved up with little to no pressure. Our new DC Evero also might have opted to take his chances elsewhere had we decided to blow up our pass rush. You guys can't have it both ways.

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41 minutes ago, Pup McBarky said:

But he has that really cool Spiderman move.

I’m convinced that stupid celebration is why he’s so popular around the league. It’s easily marketable to kids who don’t know he’s an average pass rusher they just like Spider-Man because they’re little kids 

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9 minutes ago, frankw said:

There is merit to some of the criticisms of Burns but this whole discussion has reached a point where some folks just clearly want him gone and want to see what our pass rush looks like.

Then there are those of us who genuinely like the guy, think he's a good player, and want him around for a fair price. I'll be happy as a clam if that happens. But I also know how this stuff works and like others have said, by passing on the massive bounty the Rams offered for him, we painted ourselves in a corner with his agent. Oh well. Seems no matter who's in charge, we seem to overpay for certain players.

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2 hours ago, PootieNunu said:

WTH? lol, it doesnt take much for you to jump off of a cliff does it? Did you miss my first post where I said I like Burns as a pass rusher, but he is not on the same level with the big guns at the position.

He was supposed to develop since we drafted him but the improvement has been marginal. Hopefully the new staff can get the most out of him, as the last idiots had him dropping in coverage on a regular basis. 

I am excited for the season to start as well, and I hope it is not a long season as we have had too many of those these past few years....

I get where you’re coming from dude, I will say I disagree with you at the same time respectfully. Burns has 100% developed over his rookie contract, both in his play style and body. Him dropping 12.5 sacks last year clearly didn’t impress anyone but he did this in his age 24 season. Not only has he already improved but it’s very reasonable for him to develop throughout his first contract due to him coming into the league so young. Burns floor is currently 12.5 sacks, his ceiling is a 15+ sack guy, you pay those guys the bag. Especially given his trajectory of finally going into a proper 3-4 defense, not Riveras fraud 3-4. Burns in the correct role will prove to be even scarier using his elite burst and bend to terrorize QBS and playing a 3-4 LB will allow him to play to his more natural role in run defense allowing him to be a complete player on the defense.

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1 hour ago, Pup McBarky said:

Then there are those of us who genuinely like the guy, think he's a good player, and want him around for a fair price. I'll be happy as a clam if that happens. But I also know how this stuff works and like others have said, by passing on the massive bounty the Rams offered for him, we painted ourselves in a corner with his agent. Oh well. Seems no matter who's in charge, we seem to overpay for certain players.

Flip side is if we accept the Rams offer does Evero want to coach here while we rebuild our pass rush from scratch when he can take an offer from another team that isn't lacking at least one really good pass rusher? I hear you completely but there's no such thing as a truly fair price in this current version of the NFL for either of the two most sought after positions (QB and DE). We just have to hope we get lucky enough to time it right to have both without sinking our cap.

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I'll just ask this...

Who has been his coaches for most of the time here?

Who are his coaches now?

Is he likely to get better or worse from here on?

My answer is, pay the man now because he'll never be as cheap as he is right now.

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