Dalvin not Cooking in Minnesota Anymore

[frankw]

If he's willing to take a cheap prove it deal kick the tires. If not then see who else emerges in camp behind Sanders. You don't have to sink a boatload of money into the position anymore.

[Billy Love]

56 minutes ago, joemac said:

We just signed one of the most productive backs from last year, and we have a good young RB in Hubbard.  We have no space for a guy like Cook.  Plus hes injured ALL THE TIME

for the right price, you make room for an RB like Cook, IMO.  

[DJ feed me moore]

We already have Dalvin Cook at home(Miles Sanders)

[Smithers]

2 hours ago, joemac said:

We just signed one of the most productive backs from last year, and we have a good young RB in Hubbard.  We have no space for a guy like Cook.  Plus hes injured ALL THE TIME

He played every game last year.  And only missed a total of 9 games the 3 years before that 

[jb2288]

3 hours ago, t96 said:

McCaffrey is wayyyyyyy better than Cook ever has been. Granted his injury issues were even worse than Cook's but still the talent gap is huge. 

It's actually unreal. I think it'll bounce back a bit in a few years and level out but RB value has never been lower. We got a good deal on CMC

[Wolfcop]

Cooks is historically a more productive runner than CMC, though obviously not as a pass catcher. 

[t96]

4 hours ago, ladypanther said:

I quoted Jim Miller, the former NFL QB and now host of Moving the Chains on Sirius as saying that very thing.   Not exclusively a Huddle opinion...fyi.

The movie Moneyball was on tv a few days ago and I was watching it and all I could think of during the scenes about replacing guys' production was our WR group and losing DJ. Don't need to replace the player just the production, and the guys we've signed/drafted can do just that. We are definitely "fine" at receiver. Amazing/not needing to upgrade at all in the next few years? No of course not. But it's not a weakness that will hold this team back, it can be worked around with coaching, OL and Bryce's play.

 

The Chiefs aren't a perfect example for us as they have Kelce and arguably the best QB to ever play the game and an elite offensive HC but our receivers this season are no worse than the Chiefs' were last year as champs. I'd love to get a bonafide #1 WR like a Jefferson or Chase but there was no need to force the issue right now, let it come in time if the opportunity presents itself. Hopkins is an interesting target worthy of due diligence in theory, but $, health and age are all considerations as well as the interest being a 2 way street. All indications are he wants to sign with a contender and proven elite QB, so we may have called and gotten a quick and easy thanks but no thanks...

[rebelrouser]

5 hours ago, RumHam said:

Cook is cut. Take a flight up there to cut off any flight he has leaving.

Overpaid and always hurt running back.  No thanks.   

[Pejorative Miscreant]

5 hours ago, joemac said:

We just signed one of the most productive backs from last year, and we have a good young RB in Hubbard.  We have no space for a guy like Cook.  Plus hes injured ALL THE TIME

But that productive back’s name is not Dalvin Cook.  I saw that dude on the you tube. 

[Mr. Scot]

I see some members of the "I saw that guy on Sportscenter and people say he's good so we should sign him" brigade are out.

You don't sign a guy for how good he used to be. You only sign someone you think can be good in the future.

Not so sure Cook fits that category anymore...

[Montsta]

11 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

I don't know if we can quite say that, considering one just got drafted 8th overall.  Plus 3 vets being franchise tagged instead of let go (Barkley, Jacobs, and Pollard), which ain't cheap.

I would say sunsetting RB’s are getting the devaluation. Drafting a stud RB is a great idea still because they tend to acclimate to the NFL and produce early. The key is not to get sucked in and give them that contract. If I was an NFL GM I would draft a great RB, use him for 3-4 years, then trade him away for whatever I could get and call it a day. If he has a career year right before that big contract then great trade him away or take the comp pick when you lose him.

 

TLDR; Draft RB’s early, but never, ever sign them to big deal at end of rookie contract. 

[Ricky Prickles]

14 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

We don't sign good players becauser they take away reps from our young guys.

 

This board in a nutshell...

 

j/k

Or by others flawed philosophy.....Let's just sign every good player that is available and be on our way to salary cap hell. And yes, signing Hopkins would have most definitely taken away reps from Mingo and TMJ while overpaying for a player who may seen his best days behind him but that does not mean at every single position other than WR that it would be the same situation. But that's this board in a nutshell. If one has a valid opinion in one spot then let's take their valid opinion and spin it all around to be damned to meet our whacked narrative in order to push our agenda. But by all means let's go sign the lesser often injured version of CMC (as if some didn't complain enough about his injury history and high salary) and overpay for him at that, when we already have miles sanders who has a nearly exact same play style when we do need to sign another running back but perhaps someone who plays a more power back role.

Edited June 9, 2023 by Ricky Prickles

[Camp Fodder]

On 6/8/2023 at 9:21 AM, uncfan888 said:

We have more pressing needs like DE and corner

This. There is no positions we should be looking at besides these 2

[MasterAwesome]

13 hours ago, Montsta said:

I would say sunsetting RB’s are getting the devaluation. Drafting a stud RB is a great idea still because they tend to acclimate to the NFL and produce early. The key is not to get sucked in and give them that contract. If I was an NFL GM I would draft a great RB, use him for 3-4 years, then trade him away for whatever I could get and call it a day. If he has a career year right before that big contract then great trade him away or take the comp pick when you lose him.

 

TLDR; Draft RB’s early, but never, ever sign them to big deal at end of rookie contract. 

I agree with your position: I wasn't speaking on my personal philosophy, I was saying it's too early to say that the league is devaluing running backs.  Value is tied not only to contract extensions, but to draft investments and teams taking running backs at 8th and 12th overall just a month ago is quite the costly investment.

On the money side, three teams may very well be getting ready to sign their running backs to big deals at the end of their rookie contracts: Giants (Barkley), Pollard (Cowboys), and Jacobs (Raiders).  Oftentimes the franchise tag is a prerequisite to a contract extension, but we'll have to see how it plays out in these cases.