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Official Saints at Panthers MNF thread


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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

The Saints knew it was coming. They were just waiting there. More deep attempts to Chark and use Laviska more. Those are our most explosive players until Mingo gets more comfortable.

I mean Thielen got a few yards out of one or two of them. Mingo looked like he had no idea what to do with it. Laviska is the screen king. But let's draw one up like Shanahan does with Deebo. We know it's coming too, but...

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Just now, 96Bravo said:

I mean if it's not the plays, it's the execution. So...who's not executing, Frank?

It’s the plays. You have 2 backup OGs in the game so let’s take our RB and ram him into the middle which is a strength for NO over and over and see what happens. Option 2 is a constant WR screen to Theilen?? Who might be our least athletic WR….

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36 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Really? Rattle off the list.

Rattle off the list of QBs that started day one? You think that’s hard?

2023 - All three 1sts started day 1

2022 - Pickett came in game 4, started every game since

2021 - Lawrence, Wilson and Mac started week 1. Trey Lance is dog poo and Fields started week 3.

2020 - Burrow started week 1, Herbert started week 2 (no idea why) and Tua started late because of his hip injury when people weren’t even sure if he’d play that year. Love was selected when GB had a HOF QB there.

2019 - Murray started day 1, Jones started week 3. Haskins was trash.

Sorry, but I hope you weren’t actually being serious when you thought I was wrong that top rookie QBs, especially top 10 picks start week 1.

Outside of injury (Tua), being behind a HOF QB (Love) or just being a shitty QB (Lance and Haskins) that doesn’t even make it through the rookie deal, almost every QB drafted in the first started week 1 or at worst week 3. Honestly, I probably shouldn’t even have Pickett or Love in my list because they were taken by playoff teams at 20+ draft slots.

Every 1st overall pick in the last 5 drafts (4 of them) started week 1 and haven’t stopped starting except for injury.

If Young sat for Dalton for most of this year, I’d say we fuged up the pick royally. He may never reach elite status but if he didn’t start until we’ll into the season it would be a really bad sign as the top pick.

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2 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Rattle off the list of QBs that started day one? You think that’s hard?

2023 - All three 1sts started day 1

2022 - Pickett came in game 4, started every game since

2021 - Lawrence, Wilson and Mac started week 1. Trey Lance is dog poo and Fields started week 3.

2020 - Burrow started week 1, Herbert started week 2 (no idea why) and Tua started late because of his hip injury when people weren’t even sure if he’d play that year. Love was selected when GB had a HOF QB there.

2019 - Murray started day 1, Jones started week 3. Haskins was trash.

Sorry, but I hope you weren’t actually being serious when you thought I was wrong that top rookie QBs, especially top 10 picks start week 1.

Outside of injury (Tua), being behind a HOF QB (Love) or just being a shitty QB (Lance and Haskins) that doesn’t even make it through the rookie deal, almost every QB drafted in the first started week 1 or at worst week 3. Honestly, I probably shouldn’t even have Pickett or Love in my list because they were taken by playoff teams at 20+ draft slots.

Every 1st overall pick in the last 5 drafts (4 of them) started week 1 and haven’t stopped starting except for injury.

If Young sat for Dalton for most of this year, I’d say we fuged up the pick royally. He may never reach elite status but if he didn’t start until we’ll into the season it would be a really bad sign as the top pick.

Herbert started week 2 because a team doctor punctured Tyrod Taylor’s lung in accident or something weird like that…

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Lol, you got Burrow and that's it.  The rest struggled.  Rookie QBs need to sit, period.  The higher the draft pick the fewer game they sit, but throwing their arse to the wolves is, and always has been, a bad idea.  That is unless you are FULLY prepared to take on a losing...sometimes UGLY losing season. In today's NFL, HCs have about two years to turn it around.  That being said you can hope the rookie is forged by fire after a brutal rookie campaign OR start a veteran an ease the rookie in if the things aren't going swimmingly after the first several games.

 

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