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This is what happens when you surround a great QB prospect with horrible scheme and surrounding talent.  The last two games Bryce has looked horrible. 

When the whole team on offense looks this bad it's on coaching and scheme.  Every time we play 23 personal and power run we look like we know what we are doing.

But Frank always goes back to 4 or 5 wide spread with no protection and Bryce gets smoked.  No chance.

Zavala looks worse with every snap and yet we still are not giving him help and leaving the line no help with blocking.  How many pressures and sacks will it take to get through to Frank.

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2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

No one on here cares that at she is a woman. It is the blind leading the blind. Two unqualified people who shouldn’t be anywhere near the decision making are and the team is worse for it. 

Her sitting at a practice couldn't of went over well in some eyes. It is what it is and she is no talent evaluator! I feel you and somebody has to get her n David in check or this franchise is forever doomed at their helm. 

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Just now, Loyalty4Life said:

This is what happens when you surround a great QB prospect with horrible scheme and surrounding talent.  The last two games Bryce has looked horrible. 

When the whole team on offense looks this bad it's on coaching and scheme.  Every time we play 23 personal and power run we look like we know what we are doing.

But Frank always goes back to 4 or 5 wide spread with no protection and Bryce gets smoked.  No chance.

Zavala looks worse with every snap and yet we still are not giving him help and leaving the line no help with blocking.  How many pressures and sacks will it take to get through to Frank.

Who is this great QB prospect you are talking about? 

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4 minutes ago, Byrdman4real said:

I see QBs miss wide open passes every game. The problem is they get more opportunities for open passes consistently. 

At the rate of Bryce Young?  He's not only missing the passes, he's not seeing the open guys.  Are these other Qbs starters or backups?  I agree, some of the backup QBs have looked awful this year.

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1 minute ago, Loyalty4Life said:

This is what happens when you surround a great QB prospect with horrible scheme and surrounding talent.  The last two games Bryce has looked horrible. 

When the whole team on offense looks this bad it's on coaching and scheme.  Every time we play 23 personal and power run we look like we know what we are doing.

But Frank always goes back to 4 or 5 wide spread with no protection and Bryce gets smoked.  No chance.

Zavala looks worse with every snap and yet we still are not giving him help and leaving the line no help with blocking.  How many pressures and sacks will it take to get through to Frank.

#Never Bryces Fault

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