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Panthers Vs Saints 1PM Gameday Thread


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Just now, 4Corners said:

I’m speculating, but I bet he offered Eviro the job and he passed. Don’t blame him. 

Tabor, Brown, Evero....it wouldn't matter because the main problem is at QB. Firing Frank was meant to take the heat off of Bryce, to buy him more time to develop and clearly that hasn't worked.  Tepper is running out of excuses for the S2 wonder kid. 

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4 minutes ago, BY9Franchise said:

Dallas cowboys 2006 durp durp watch the fg block penalty at the end 

Hurr durr, they ruled Lucas didn't touch the ball, which made the contact roughing. Shouldn't have been roughing since he clearly touched it. Better know what you're talking about if you're running your mouth.

https://www.deseret.com/2005/12/25/19929717/panther-penalty-gives-dallas-new-life

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Ken Lucas and Julius Peppers pushed through the line, grasping at air in an effort to block Billy Cundiff's field goal.

Lucas was positive his left middle finger touched the ball right before he and Peppers crashed into the kicker. The deflection changed the trajectory, caused Cundiff's attempt to miss and locked up a postseason berth for the Carolina Panthers.

The officials said otherwise.

Peppers was called for roughing the kicker, giving the Dallas Cowboys a second chance to keep their fading playoff hopes alive.

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Just now, Tarheel119 said:

His receivers have dropped 2-3 passes as well. The OL is hot garbage and the kid is running for his life. I’m not saying he’s a franchise guy, but geez, this team does him no favors!

Yep, it's all of the above, the others are bad, but he is no franchise QB.  We all got duped.

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