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Tepper being “incredibly accountable” behind the scenes

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kungfoodude Grand Master

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

From the sounds of the article he is accepting he has been the problem. Accepting his mistakes has never been Tepper's problem. He's willing to accept his mistakes and move on from them. He's just not willing to accept that he continues to make new mistakes and isn't improving as a football manager. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Tepper has to come to grips with the reality that Tepper the team owner would've fired Tepper the Team President multiple times already. He has to essentially fire himself from his current role within the organization and create a new role for himself where his involvement in the football side of the house is GREATLY reduced. Until the happens we are what we are.

It was a single source quoted in the article so I highly doubt the veracity of those claims.

I genuinely don't think he had any meaningful self reflection nor did he learn anything important.

His "self reflection" was probably basically, "I shouldn't have hired that dumbass coach."

That is about as deep as it gets.

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27 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It was a single source quoted in the article so I highly doubt the veracity of those claims.

I genuinely don't think he had any meaningful self reflection nor did he learn anything important.

His "self reflection" was probably basically, "I shouldn't have hired that dumbass coach."

That is about as deep as it gets.

Until he gets the fug out of football operations, it doesn't matter how much reflecting he does... 

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

It was a single source quoted in the article so I highly doubt the veracity of those claims.

I genuinely don't think he had any meaningful self reflection nor did he learn anything important.

His "self reflection" was probably basically, "I shouldn't have hired that dumbass coach."

That is about as deep as it gets.

Oh, I agree. I think it's highly likely he thinks he's just making mistakes while learning the ropes and he'll eventually figure it out. Meanwhile, everything seems to be just getting progressively worse.

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10 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

He just had 5,000 people show up to one of his games and has been the joke of every national football show since he fired Reich. If this doesn’t prompt change with him I don’t think anything ever will. 

Oh I don't think it was her.

Her source was probably from the original article and got figured out. Now they are doing damage control.

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