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*FreeFua* Grand Master

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8 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

We got market value because they only looked at it as the numbers standpoint from the draft chart, but half those picks were never going to pan out, and the best pick was at the end of the 2nd round 

Never should have traded CMC for anything less than a 1st, he’s the best weapon in football.  Mid to late round draft picks isn’t going to replace that, we needed 1 impact player in return if we were going to trade him at all (which we shouldn’t have).

Agreed. This whole “equivalent to a 1st” compensation is some of the dumbest sh!t I’ve heard them try to sell us

My problem is that they aren’t looking ahead during any deal they’re making. When they were trading CMC they knew the Baker/Darnold thing wasn’t the answer. They knew they’d be looking to trade up for a QB/the scouting of Bryce, etc was already beginning with a trade up in mind. 

The only thing that came from that trade was SF’s 2nd so we could keep our 2nd where’d we’d ultimately draft a 3rd round (at best) player in Mingo. 

Now Dan Morgan did the exact same thing with Burns. I was hopeful he had another deal in mind when he accepted a 2nd and two 5th’s but that’s clearly not the case. Chances of this group hitting on pick 39 are slim. By “hit” I mean an average player. The two 5th rounders are throw away picks. I’m sure they use them to trade up in round 4 or some crap on a player they’ll cut 2 years from now.

Top to bottom this organization is full of morons and the last however many years of misery us fans have suffered through is all the proof you need

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1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

Agreed. This whole “equivalent to a 1st” compensation is some of the dumbest sh!t I’ve heard them try to sell us

My problem is that they aren’t looking ahead during any deal they’re making. When they were trading CMC they knew the Baker/Darnold thing wasn’t the answer. They knew they’d be looking to trade up for a QB/the scouting of Bryce, etc was already beginning with a trade up in mind. 

The only thing that came from that trade was SF’s 2nd so we could keep our 2nd where’d we’d ultimately draft a 3rd round (at best) player in Mingo. 

Now Dan Morgan did the exact same thing with Burns. I was hopeful he had another deal in mind when he accepted a 2nd and two 5th’s but that’s clearly not the case. Chances of this group hitting on pick 39 are slim. By “hit” I mean an average player. The two 5th rounders are throw away picks. I’m sure they use them to trade up in round 4 or some crap on a player they’ll cut 2 years from now.

Top to bottom this organization is full of morons and the last however many years of misery us fans have suffered through is all the proof you need

I personally think the supposed "trade value chart" is pretty fuging stupid and pointless.  Not all things are in a vacuum and each situation is different.  So yes I agree with you,  we didnt net a first round pick for cmac.

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On 3/22/2024 at 4:35 AM, tukafan21 said:

We got market value because they only looked at it as the numbers standpoint from the draft chart, but half those picks were never going to pan out, and the best pick was at the end of the 2nd round 

Never should have traded CMC for anything less than a 1st, he’s the best weapon in football.  Mid to late round draft picks isn’t going to replace that, we needed 1 impact player in return if we were going to trade him at all (which we shouldn’t have).

You are aware that if the 49ers put him on the block tomorrow and wanted a 1st they would likely have very few if any offers, right? 

I think the thing missing from people's minds is what just happened this offseason. Almost every team in the NFL let their elite RB walk.

That's not an accident. I don't know how much more the NFL needs to telegraph the current value of RB's....

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4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

You are aware that if the 49ers put him on the block tomorrow and wanted a 1st they would likely have very few if any offers, right? 

I think the thing missing from people's minds is what just happened this offseason. Almost every team in the NFL let their elite RB walk.

That's not an accident. I don't know how much more the NFL needs to telegraph the current value of RB's....

CMC isn't any other elite RB, he's the best weapon in the NFL, there's a reason he won offensive player of the year.

I'd bet at least a dozen teams would be willing to give up their 1st round pick for him, especially if it was the same contract situation at the time of the trade, as we had to take the hit on his signing bonus that we already paid out, there was not much guaranteed money (if any) left on CMC's deal when the 49ers took him on.

It was a TERRIBLE trade, no if's, and's, or but's about it

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8 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

CMC isn't any other elite RB, he's the best weapon in the NFL, there's a reason he won offensive player of the year.

I'd bet at least a dozen teams would be willing to give up their 1st round pick for him, especially if it was the same contract situation at the time of the trade, as we had to take the hit on his signing bonus that we already paid out, there was not much guaranteed money (if any) left on CMC's deal when the 49ers took him on.

It was a TERRIBLE trade, no if's, and's, or but's about it

Well said and 100% agree. Even worse we made that trade to the 49ers, whoever one knew was going to be one of the top five teams at the end of the season, which significantly hurt the value of those picks

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10 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

CMC isn't any other elite RB, he's the best weapon in the NFL, there's a reason he won offensive player of the year.

The best weapon in the NFL is elite QB talent.

Offensive player of the year or Super Bowl champion? Which one you choosing?

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