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Three of the top six CB's are still on the board.  There will definitely be a CB with first round talent still on the board at 39.  It's a position that we do have some significant need for.

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Bills have a barn of picks -- could see them going a few routes.  Maybe a trade down, or maybe take their top guy and then trade back up from 60 for another one.  They also have DB and DL needs.    Will be interesting to see what they do.

Overall, DeJean, Johnny Newton & Kool-Aid are three who I imagine could go fairly quickly.  Solid talents.   But thing is, there's teams now with young QBs needing to either protect them or give them weapons.  A real quality defender could fall.  Excited to see what happens.       

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

 

Here is how I see the first part of the second round going down:

33. Buffalo:  They need a WR above all else, but they could use DL as well.  Johnny Newton has to look like the best value here, but I expect the pick to be Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas.

34. New England:  They would ideally like to add a LT here, but that would be a reach.  Johnny Newton would also fill a key secondary need, but since Maye is likely to start in September, a WR might be the pick.  WR Ladd McConkey Georgia seems to be a Patriot if you think about it.

35. Arizona:  They need a true stopper at CB.  Cooper DeJean CB Iowa, your wait should end now.  This pick could be Kool Aid, and that would be more appropriate in the desert.  I feel 60% confident that DeJean is a Cardinal if he survives Buffalo, but I feel about 30% confident this could be Kool Aid.

36. Washington:  A team with so many needs is hard to gauge.  They got their QB.  This pick could be Kool Aid, but they could also use OT, WR, TE, and Edge.  They have 2 picks in round 2, so they should take the best available player in a need area:  Kool-Aid McInstry, CB Bama.

37. LA Chargers:  Hard to say what Harbaugh will do, but he needs WR and he could go Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State.  However, I think he could use a bit of DL help, and Johnny Newton DT, sitting there with a mid first round grade is too much value to pass up.  They lost Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, however, and they must be replaced.  The Chargers need multiple WRs.  Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State is the pick.

38. Tennessee:  If Johnny Newton, DL Illinois is there, they RUN to turn in the card.  DL is a huge need.  However, I expect a trade up to snatch Newton before he falls this far.  If he is not there, they could take Jackson Powers-Johnson, C Oregon, giving them 2 stud OL.  The pick is very important because the Titans do not have a third rounder.

39.  Carolina: The Panthers definitely need CB and ILB.  There is some debate over C, and there is a quality C on the board--I do not see them going that route, however.  I think they love Cooper and Wilson, ILBs.  I think they like CB Saintrisil.  All are Dawgs.  They could double dip at WR, but I doubt it here at 39--with 2 LBs on the board and a few CBs as well, they could trade back a bit.  Instead of picking a player, here is a list of Best available that seem to be fits and positions of need:

  • EDGE Marshawn Kneeland. 
  • C  Jackson Powers-Johnson
  • CB Enis Rakestraw
  • LB Edgerrin Cooper
  • LB Payton Wilson
  • CB T J Tampa
  • LB Junior Colson
  • CB Max Melton
  • CB Mike Saintrilsil
  • CB Kamari Lassiter
  • DT Brandon Fisk
  • WR Ja’Lynn Polk
  • WR Jalen McMillan
  • WR Troy Franklin
  • WR Dez Walker
  • WR Roman Wilson
  • WR Brenden Rice
  • WR Malachai Corley

Based on your prediction I don't see us taking another WR. We need starters.  If we take a WR at 39 he'll be, at best, 4th on the depth chart and possibly further down if Canales gets Mingo and/or TMJ to step up.

Kneeland, I read has a huge upside.

Cooper would allow us to walk away from Shaq next year.

Wilson has Luke's endorsement. 

There are also a couple of CB that could help us.

Can't predict but I'm betting we don't double down.

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Cooper 100%. LB aren't valued as much nowadays but you NEED one. A legit sideline to sideline ILB can change the look of a defense over night. 

Especially when we've had some great at that position including our current GM

Or CB definitely top graded talent still on the board 

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

 

Here is how I see the first part of the second round going down:

33. Buffalo:  They need a WR above all else, but they could use DL as well.  Johnny Newton has to look like the best value here, but I expect the pick to be Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas.

34. New England:  They would ideally like to add a LT here, but that would be a reach.  Johnny Newton would also fill a key secondary need, but since Maye is likely to start in September, a WR might be the pick.  WR Ladd McConkey Georgia seems to be a Patriot if you think about it.

35. Arizona:  They need a true stopper at CB.  Cooper DeJean CB Iowa, your wait should end now.  This pick could be Kool Aid, and that would be more appropriate in the desert.  I feel 60% confident that DeJean is a Cardinal if he survives Buffalo, but I feel about 30% confident this could be Kool Aid.

36. Washington:  A team with so many needs is hard to gauge.  They got their QB.  This pick could be Kool Aid, but they could also use OT, WR, TE, and Edge.  They have 2 picks in round 2, so they should take the best available player in a need area:  Kool-Aid McInstry, CB Bama.

37. LA Chargers:  Hard to say what Harbaugh will do, but he needs WR and he could go Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State.  However, I think he could use a bit of DL help, and Johnny Newton DT, sitting there with a mid first round grade is too much value to pass up.  They lost Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, however, and they must be replaced.  The Chargers need multiple WRs.  Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State is the pick.

38. Tennessee:  If Johnny Newton, DL Illinois is there, they RUN to turn in the card.  DL is a huge need.  However, I expect a trade up to snatch Newton before he falls this far.  If he is not there, they could take Jackson Powers-Johnson, C Oregon, giving them 2 stud OL.  The pick is very important because the Titans do not have a third rounder.

39.  Carolina: The Panthers definitely need CB and ILB.  There is some debate over C, and there is a quality C on the board--I do not see them going that route, however.  I think they love Cooper and Wilson, ILBs.  I think they like CB Saintrisil.  All are Dawgs.  They could double dip at WR, but I doubt it here at 39--with 2 LBs on the board and a few CBs as well, they could trade back a bit.  Instead of picking a player, here is a list of Best available that seem to be fits and positions of need:

  • EDGE Marshawn Kneeland. 
  • C  Jackson Powers-Johnson
  • CB Enis Rakestraw
  • LB Edgerrin Cooper
  • LB Payton Wilson
  • CB T J Tampa
  • LB Junior Colson
  • CB Max Melton
  • CB Mike Saintrilsil
  • CB Kamari Lassiter
  • DT Brandon Fisk
  • WR Ja’Lynn Polk
  • WR Jalen McMillan
  • WR Troy Franklin
  • WR Dez Walker
  • WR Roman Wilson
  • WR Brenden Rice
  • WR Malachai Corley

Honestly we can’t go wrong with any of these guys 

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I expected the Panthers to take WR Adonai Mitchell with the 32nd pick. If Mitchell is there at the 39th pick and we don't take him I'll be really disappointed.

If Mitchell is gone by 39, then Kool-AidMcKinstry would be my pick.

I have a feeling one of these players will be available and I'd be happy with either one.

 

 

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Looking at some of the other top rated players on the board, you have Jer'Zhan Newton. Doesn't really fit our defense. Highly unlikely we take him. Ladd McConkey < Adonai Mitchell. Marshawn Kneeland doesn't really wow me.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I didn't pay attention to what Washington did in the off-season but they better do something about that OL.

I keep seeing WR as a need for them, and I just don't agree. They have great WRs. They just can't keep their QB upright or on the field because their oline is below NFL average. 

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Here's my prediction for Rounds 2 and 3:

- We move back from 39 and pick up an extra 5th. We draft Mike Sainristil somewhere in the 40s

- We move up to the back end of the 2nd (costing the 5th we just picked up) and take either Payton Wilson, Edgerrin Cooper, or Ben Sinnott (Likely in that order), depending on who is available. 

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1 hour ago, Bear Hands said:

Apparently it wasn't only the medicals--there are teams reportedly w/character concerns about JPJ per Daniel Jeremiah and Dane B.  He may have a slide.  

I haven’t heard this before, what were the character concerns?

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While I'm not really high on doubling up at WR I must admit Mitchell is probably the only WR I would be fine taking at pick #39.

 

If he isn't on the board I think we should fill another position and get a WR later in the draft.

 

 

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