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Canales still believes in Evero

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Evero's scheme is good but he's terrible at scouting and identifying players to play in it. We've went out and brought in several players at his request because of them having history with him and most of them have been awful. I'm ok with keeping him on as DC but his input on personnel needs to be cut back. Go out and get some actual talent on defense and not just the leftovers from the Rams and Broncos from when Evero was there. 

 

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4 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

evero wanted to leave, he couldnt

Right. Can't blame him, we traded Burns in order to use that money to use on the offensive side of the team. We left him with little to work with on defense and once Derrick Brown went down for the season it was all over. I continue to say he's doing the best with what he has to work with, I feel a mutual departure will be what occurs next week. 

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4 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Evero is not the problem. Anybody with a clear eye can see he has nothing to work with. Name me a decent player besides Horn and Clowney?

 

You need talent to be successful as a coach. This is for every sport.

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4 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

You can't run an effective 3-4 without a monster NT and this FO has never really committed to the 3-4 front since Ron switched to it. 

It's not all Evero's fault, but there's plenty of blame to go around for this defense being this bad. 

 

I agree with your statement.

 

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Just now, jfra78 said:

They have been getting Evero's guys 

I don't dispute that but if Evero is calling your shots as a FO, that doesn't say much for the FO. If it's a collaborative effort, that doesn't say much for the FO. If it's largely the FO making the decisions, that doesn't say much for the FO.

Ultimately the front office guys take heat for poor talent. Even if it's at the behest of the coach/coaches.....you still ultimately have the responsibility.

Hence the 80/20.

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3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

It's the worst defensive roster in the history of this franchise that spans 30 years. I would say that is quite the accomplishment by the FO.

I mean, yeah, but they knew they were making sacrifices in regards to the defense. With the injury to Brown and to a lesser extent Shaq, we were cooked. Sure, the FO is accountable for trying to ensure (and insure) that the (im)perfect storm doesn't happen, but making lemonade out of lemons is really not realistic in the NFL. Matt Rhule and Scott Fitterer (under pressure from David Tepper) left the roster in shambles from too many angles. Dan Morgan and company concentrated on offense last off-season with a so-so result, but still to the detriment of the defense, including a wing and a prayer at EDGE.

All that being said, I dislike the scheme, especially when you're trying to rebuild (and, yes, we were/are rebuilding regardless of what they say), but, then again, I guess that ripping the band-aid off is a rational approach during a transition. Still, I prefer a 4-3 base (admittedly, maybe because it's what I'm used to). I am highly skeptical of Evero's scheme because to me it makes it easier for the RB to gain a head of scheme, and if you don't have the speedy physical backers and safeties you're cooked. I'd much prefer that Evero goes, but if he stays he'll have a fairer shot to make a believer out of all us non-believers.

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6 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Evero is not the problem. Anybody with a clear eye can see he has nothing to work with. Name me a decent player besides Horn and Clowney?

 

You need talent to be successful as a coach. This is for every sport.

This we have a bunch of nobody's on defense.... 

The best player has been out all year shaq too, Wonnum missed more than half the year, Fuller has missed most of the year...

 

This unit was talent deficient to begin with and then you factor in that pretty much all of the guys who are NFL level have missed extended time this is what you get.

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7 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

You can't run an effective 3-4 without a monster NT and this FO has never really committed to the 3-4 front since Ron switched to it. 

It's not all Evero's fault, but there's plenty of blame to go around for this defense being this bad. 

 

I believe Tepper forced Ron to switch to 3-4 and it's been a mess ever since. 

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