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Morgan as GM so far

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2 minutes ago, countryboi said:

Most teams fail at the draft, it’s largely a crapshoot. For every team that drafts as well as the Rams last year, there are 29 others struggling to find even one rosterable players. A successful draft rate over five years is around 30%, meaning that hitting on just two out of seven picks would make you one of the most best GMs in the league. 

I think fans set their expectations too high for results that are pretty unlikely.

I have learned over the years, there are some incredibly stupid fans who probably spend most of their day drooling all over themselves and demanding juice boxes.

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2 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

If you look at previous performances, my old, fatass would make a notable difference!

Still, I like Morgan so far. No marquee players (this year), but solid guys looking to play a larger role. And building from the trenches out!!!

I don’t see what’s to like TBH. As someone posted about, spending in FA is easy. IOL was a problem because we ignored it in the draft, and we have solved (barring injury, depth is suspect) 2/3 of it with the 3rd highest paid RG and 9th highest paid LG. When you have the highest paid guard tandem, they better be good. Spending money on DL is obvious to do. Just like OL, that’s our weakness now.

He’s done nothing special yet. Overspending is easy to do. Signing a Reddick or Luvu where your result is a great value, that’s special. Our 2024 draft has been very rough outside of Coker. Pick 8 and 57 better hit hard because signing FAs to be your core guys never works. The great team sign a FA or two to fill spots and use the bulk of their cap to extend their great draft picks.

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7 minutes ago, Tbe said:


The league average is 2.5 starters per draft that start for at least 3 years.

We’ve been at maybe 1-1.5 the past 7 years.

There’s also a big difference between our starters and most other teams. We’ve been bottom of the barrel since second half of 2018. Drafting a “starter” here is a lot easier than drafting a starter in KC so your stat, while true, doesn’t indicate that we are draft less starters each draft and we aren’t getting impact guys outside Brown and 50% of an impact guy in Horn.

After round 1, since 2018, Chubba is literally the only impact starter in 7 drafts. Thats horrific drafting and it’s why we’ve spent $270M on 2 guards, 2 DTs and 1 safety. People go to the SB when they spend that on their franchise QB, not on guards, DTs and safeties. I hope they all make the team better but overpaying positions we should be drafting and developing on the cheap is not the best way to build a contender.

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22 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

There’s also a big difference between our starters and most other teams. We’ve been bottom of the barrel since second half of 2018. Drafting a “starter” here is a lot easier than drafting a starter in KC so your stat, while true, doesn’t indicate that we are draft less starters each draft and we aren’t getting impact guys outside Brown and 50% of an impact guy in Horn.

After round 1, since 2018, Chubba is literally the only impact starter in 7 drafts. Thats horrific drafting and it’s why we’ve spent $270M on 2 guards, 2 DTs and 1 safety. People go to the SB when they spend that on their franchise QB, not on guards, DTs and safeties. I hope they all make the team better but overpaying positions we should be drafting and developing on the cheap is not the best way to build a contender.


Most teams aren’t the eagles and chiefs, but I agree with your basic point.

We’ve also spent a lot of time drafting guys for systems that are thrown out a year or so later when the coaching staff changes.

 

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Spending money in FA is not the hard part of the job.  Managing the cap and more importantly the draft is where he should be judged and based off one year its pretty fuging ugly

You can't base anything off of "one year". Except for Reich, who clearly wanted Stroud because Stroud fit what he wanted to do. 

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49 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

I don’t see what’s to like TBH. As someone posted about, spending in FA is easy. IOL was a problem because we ignored it in the draft, and we have solved (barring injury, depth is suspect) 2/3 of it with the 3rd highest paid RG and 9th highest paid LG. When you have the highest paid guard tandem, they better be good. Spending money on DL is obvious to do. Just like OL, that’s our weakness now.

He’s done nothing special yet. Overspending is easy to do. Signing a Reddick or Luvu where your result is a great value, that’s special. Our 2024 draft has been very rough outside of Coker. Pick 8 and 57 better hit hard because signing FAs to be your core guys never works. The great team sign a FA or two to fill spots and use the bulk of their cap to extend their great draft picks.

Coker wasn’t even drafted. 

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1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Too soon to say one way or the other. He is not good at drafting but seems to be decent with FA. Ask me next year if he's still here.

FA is largely just throwing money at knowns.  Which I'm glad he is going to that direction.  But anyone can do that.  The draft and actually adding cohesive pieces are the defining things for a GM.  Morgan still has a lot to prove there. 

 

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