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Rumor circulating between a potential Panthers/Niners QB swap... Teddy B for Jimmy G

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4 hours ago, FeelTheBurns53 said:

Not sure how credible, but he's a former raider player and a former radio show host. He also has a blue check mark so that's gotta mean something right?

"Blue check mark" and "complete dumbass" are not mutually exclusive. 

Add in "former Raider player" and "former radio host" and you're rapidly gaining on "complete dumbass" status!

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3 hours ago, Basbear said:

For the 49ers they would be getting picks and a QB thats able to play 15/16 games and backup if needed.

 

Panthers would be able to get off paying Teddy 10 mill, no matter what. Thats his guarantees, along with another 8 million in base. 

They must not like the other options out there, I want them to stay put at 8 and hope theres a QB they like still available. Plus being in 5 deals, puts more control in your hands.  

 

I didn't read past the first post saying it was player for player. Is there something saying picks would be involved?  Ythey have comparable contracts the remainder. I don't see significant play or contract advantages for either team 

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11 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Oh, you guys are missing the boat. Jimmy has $0 guaranteed. Bring him into camp and see what happens but still draft a QB of the future.

Worst case, he sucks and you cut him. Then it’s we traded Teddy and his $10M guarantee for a 2nd. Are you shitting me? I’d give a 4th or 5th just to have a team take Teddy off our hands if it means we save $18M in cap space.

Heck, I’d do this trade today and cut Jimmy tomorrow. Save $18M and get a 2nd, heck ya.

Yeah this is what I was asking on the first page. If it alleviates cap who cares as long as we don’t think jimmy is the future. 

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14 hours ago, grimesgoat said:

This could be a win for both teams.

SF is in a win now mode - they just need a guy that is steady, doesn't make a lot of mistakes, and can stay healthy.  Teddy can be a decent game manager.  With the defense and Kittle, he might have some success.  He wouldn't need to put up 30 every week to have a shot at winning.

Jimmy is much better (if healthy).  If we get an extra 2nd, this will allow us to move up a bit and grab our developmental QB to sit for a year.

I think the panthers will get one of the big 4, but will want to sit him a while to learn the ropes.  

 

This may be true.  I'm not a fan of Jimmy G but if we could get an extra pick out of it we might be in better shape to make a deal. We draft our future starter and have that extra pick to build an O-line.

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44 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Oh, you guys are missing the boat. Jimmy has $0 guaranteed. Bring him into camp and see what happens but still draft a QB of the future.

Worst case, he sucks and you cut him. Then it’s we traded Teddy and his $10M guarantee for a 2nd. Are you shitting me? I’d give a 4th or 5th just to have a team take Teddy off our hands if it means we save $18M in cap space.

Heck, I’d do this trade today and cut Jimmy tomorrow. Save $18M and get a 2nd, heck ya.

I missread what you typed. Ignore this.

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

Oh, you guys are missing the boat. Jimmy has $0 guaranteed. Bring him into camp and see what happens but still draft a QB of the future.

Worst case, he sucks and you cut him. Then it’s we traded Teddy and his $10M guarantee for a 2nd. Are you shitting me? I’d give a 4th or 5th just to have a team take Teddy off our hands if it means we save $18M in cap space.

Heck, I’d do this trade today and cut Jimmy tomorrow. Save $18M and get a 2nd, heck ya.

If these numbers and facts on Jimmy G are true, great. He was the one bad move I have seen fron the 49ers new staff. We can cut him and save lots of cash to sign better free agents which we need. 

I still think BB goes after him for a later round pick.

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

Oh, you guys are missing the boat. Jimmy has $0 guaranteed. Bring him into camp and see what happens but still draft a QB of the future.

Worst case, he sucks and you cut him. Then it’s we traded Teddy and his $10M guarantee for a 2nd. Are you shitting me? I’d give a 4th or 5th just to have a team take Teddy off our hands if it means we save $18M in cap space.

Heck, I’d do this trade today and cut Jimmy tomorrow. Save $18M and get a 2nd, heck ya.

I don't see how/why SF takes on Teddy's whole contract hit. That would have to be a specific term of the deal - why would they get an equivalent-at-best QB that is more expensive?

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2 hours ago, stbugs said:

Oh, you guys are missing the boat. Jimmy has $0 guaranteed. Bring him into camp and see what happens but still draft a QB of the future.

Worst case, he sucks and you cut him. Then it’s we traded Teddy and his $10M guarantee for a 2nd. Are you shitting me? I’d give a 4th or 5th just to have a team take Teddy off our hands if it means we save $18M in cap space.

Heck, I’d do this trade today and cut Jimmy tomorrow. Save $18M and get a 2nd, heck ya.

You have no idea how to read a contract.

Bridgewaters' signing bonus cap hit doesn't disappear when he's traded we still get his bonus proration hit on our cap but all at once.

Then in the same vein, Jimmy G's signing bonus doesn't hit our cap regardless so saying he has no guaranteed money is irrelevant if we trade for him. That's true of any player acquired by trade.

If he plays for us his 800,000 per game roster bonus and 600,000 workout does hit our cap.

Given they have similar salaries we would be hit with Teddy's prorated bonus just to switch to a similarly salaried turd.

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5 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Not saying this is anything but a completely made up rumor. If true, I’d make the deal in a second and let the coaches decide if they can salvage Jimmy. If not, added cap space and a draft pick is a great result. 

Sure if SF's willing to take the whole contract off the books but that's my point - why would SF do that? Without the money off the books the only real reason for Carolina to make this trade would seemingly be because all goodwill between Teddy and the team is gone (wouldn't really surprise me at this point) and they aren't confident they'll get 'their guy' this offseason. 

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