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Former Panthers' QB taunted as "Checkdown King" by opposing team's safety

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21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Somewhat related: Dan Pompei just posted a pretty good article to The Athletic (centered around Justin Fields, but with a mention of Newton) about how quarterbacks who are "the best athlete on the field" often struggle to win championships.

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There’s a lesson in what happened with Jackson and the Ravens regarding Fields. A quarterback who is the best athlete can make his team significantly better. But he might not be able to achieve the ultimate goal of winning a championship unless he relies on more than athleticism and unless he has a complement of players and coaches around him who perform with consistency and excellence.

Other “best athlete” quarterbacks whose teams fell short include Michael Vick and Randall Cunningham. Cam Newton and Donovan McNabb helped their teams get to Super Bowls, but neither could get past inferior athletes — Newton lost to Peyton Manning, and McNabb was one of Tom Brady’s seven opposing quarterback victims.

He goes on to mention guys like John Elway and Steve Young who achieved championship victory, but only after their respective teams did a better job of building around them.

It's a good read for subscribers (link)

Cam didn't fall short though. And he certainly didn't lose to Manning. He was headhunted the entire game and was cheated out of biggest momentum play of the game with the Cotchery catch. We played like ass but we weren't allowed to compete when the NFL was setting up Peyton for his retirement trophy. Cam beat Brady twice.

The article isn't wrong about team building but eluding to Cam not surpassing his athleticism isn't fair. If Drew Brees had Cam's ability, he wouldn't play like Drew Brees.

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1 minute ago, OneBadCat said:

Cam didn't fall short though. And he certainly didn't lose to Manning. He was headhunted the entire game and was cheated out of biggest momentum play of the game with the Cotchery catch. We played like ass but we weren't allowed to compete when the NFL was setting up Peyton for his retirement trophy. Cam beat Brady twice.

The article isn't wrong about team building but eluding to Cam not surpassing his athleticism isn't fair. If Drew Brees has Cam's ability, he wouldn't play like Drew Brees.

Pompei didn't say Newton "fell short". That sentence was referencing Michael Vick and Randall Cunningham.

His quote about both Newton and McNabb was that they "helped their teams get to Super Bowls, but couldn't get past inferior athletes".

McNabb of course also has the dubious distinction of losing his lunch on the field 🤢

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So you are saying Belichick is not showing another team what passes Cams arm can still make? And instead utilizing the aggressiveness of, to Cam unknown, dbs to build confidence in Cams short passing game?

Belichick has that safety so owned he don't even understand he is the b****.

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On 8/18/2021 at 3:51 PM, NAS said:

It got progressively worse as the season went on.  By the end of the season, the field looked a mile long with him running the offense.

How? Week 17 vs Jets (When his arm should have been at the weakest point all season!!) 21/30 242 yards and 3 Tds. 8.1 avg. It's funny the narratives people stick to. Once upon a time Yes, Cam had a hurt shoulder and a hurt foot, but those days are gone unless he gets injured again which obviously is a possibility. Gonna be a lot of people surprised at the Cam Newton they see in 2021 though. I've been reading the bullsh*t that's been spewed about how he's no longer a competent NFL Qb all offseason long, going to be great to see Cam make all these idiots look foolish

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On 8/18/2021 at 4:55 PM, Mr. Scot said:

Inconsistency was always Newton's biggest weakness. Used to say he could throw a pass that made you go OMG then follow it up with one that made you go WTF.

That's a big reason why I always compared him to Brett Favre.

(John Elway was like that too)

Probably more spot on than people may realize. I'd totally agree. Gunslinger.

Patriots are probably trying to control that. Change his game.

Jake was a slightly less version of both aside from mobility. Early Brett was a run threat.

We had good Jake bad Jake, also a gunslinger. Good Jake could actually fool you into thinking you had a bonafide franchise QB.

 

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3 minutes ago, frankw said:

The way ya'll post gifs of that as a gotcha tool really makes me wonder about how some of you operate like you're almost glad it happened. This is a bizarre fanbase sometimes I swear.

It's obvious to anyone with half a brain (and with the propensity for objectivity) that Cam was anticipating the ball popping out and bouncing to his right. Which it did. He just couldn't pull it from the defender. He didn't dive on it initially, but he's in the scrum. Nothing about that man's career would ever lead you to believe he was scared or a quitter. 

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