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This loss is on the receivers, not Sam.

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6 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Sam has to throw to where recievers will be. He does one of four things:

2. Throws it behind receiver so they have to stop or slow down, which causes some drops (not all drops, but some)

Countless complaints today that Darnold led receivers into defenders. So... does he throw behind them or lead them into defenders?

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2 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

sam played good enough enough to win today and then some

He likely won't ever be a top 10 QB but with all the investment in the D and having CMC and the contracts they give to WRs and will obviously have to give to Moore he is more than good enough to win with an OL and running game.

Still have time to draft more offense next year and see what it looks like in the draft after that as they are not going to be drafting a QB and that's obvious. Seems like we'd make a play for Watson before that and obviously he's better than Sam but wouldn't be given this OL. I don't want him injured in a hypothetical either. Get the OL fixed first and foremost but if the chance to get someone like a Watson or Stafford happens you do that but Sam isn't the main issue just isn't going to be a top 10 guy.

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20 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If you fire Joe Brady while giving him no OL and only Bridgewater and Darnold at QB, I'm not even sure if Mike Shula would take the job. Top candidates are gonna elect to take other jobs instead.

So you are ok with robby or dj being the first read on every play? Comeback routes over and over? No QB is going to look good with this craptastic playcalling. 

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7 offensive points in 3 quarters. Without the blocked punt for a touchdown we aren't even in this game. I have no response for anyone who walks away from this loss thinking Darnold and these receivers don't need to put in a ton of work. That begins with Sam Darnold stepping up and being the leader of this offense. We have gone out of our damn way to make him comfy we don't even have a viable backup. If the receivers are struggling rally your offense and stop throwing picks or putting the ball on the ground.

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2 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

So you are ok with robby or dj being the first read on every play? Comeback routes over and over? No QB is going to look good with this craptastic playcalling. 

The offense would've looked a lot better if receivers were catching the ball. 

Every pass play is designed to get the ball out quickly because bad things tend to happen when Darnold has time.

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2 hours ago, onmyown said:

Sam may not be the future. Sam may have shat the bed the past two losses.

But played good enough today for what he is. He led a last minute drive with precision passes. He side stepped poo blocking (once again).

Today we lost because of drops. Had the receivers caught those dead on passes, we would’ve won, guaranteed.

I understand the concerns of Sam but let’s keep this in perspective.

Its on the OC first...then OLINE....then everyone after that...

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