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Watching the press conferences this week, Rhule doesn't seem like a guy who is worried about his job and is looking forward to next year.

I have to wonder if all those reports that Tepper was embarrassed was put out by his team as an attempt to motive Rhule and put the pressure on. I don't think he really has any intention of moving on this year. It's always been a 3 year plan from the beginning.

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My concern is our 2022 offseason and how much of an impact Rhule/Fitts have had on it already and will continue to have between now and OTAs. No doubt if Rhule doesn't perform in '22, he will be out midseason. 

That kind of instability gives me huge pause as we have a top-6 draft pick, no other picks until 105, awful positional coaches/schemes and some heavy decisions to make....

  • Re-sign Gilmore/DJax/Reddick/Moore?
  • Lots of vet QBs available that we need to stay away from because they will drain more assets: Wilson/Mayfield/Jimmy G/Watson

If I was an owner trying to turn a franchise around, I wouldn't bring Rhule back.

He's overwhelmed, letting his ego get in the way and his style has not translated over to the NFL. One more awful offseason will set this team back 3-4 years.

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14 minutes ago, philw5289 said:

No we’ll keep him for another year. If Tepper fired Rivera before the season ended there’s no way he would let Rhule finish a season if he was going to fire him. 

I think there's a key difference between Rivera and Rhule and that is that Rivera wasn't hired by Tepper, so there was no sense of needing to save his ego by keeping Rivera around longer than needed. Rhule was directly hired by Tepper, so Tepper might feel some sense of pride and ego in not admitting his own mistake.

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I'm really not sure if Rhule returns or Not.

I think Tepper made a huge obligation to Rhule who promised to get things done right. That "process" would involve giving this staff time (3 years min?) to get things turned around. Its pretty obvious that things do not look good. Moving on from Teddy and the trades that were made mid-year would indicate a FO trying to win now and somewhat mortgaging the future....Its really confusing trying to figure out what the Heck this organization is trying to do.

I have never heard so many boo's and "Fire the Coach!" chants as I have heard from Rhule from the Fans. I'm sure Tepper didn't get much of that in regards to the staff in Pittsburgh when he was associated with that franchise. 

I think that Tepper will fire Rhule on Black Monday. Fit may be safe. We will see.

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So are we just throwing out everything he did in year one? Taking a dumpster team with 14 playera left from the last regime, building an elite defense, bringing in 12 sack Reddick and 1200 yard receiver Robby Anderson? Being competitive in every game with bum ass Bridgewater at QB. Trying to aggressively trade for a real franchise QB multiple times (Stafford, Watson), his #8 overall pick and our star player being out his entire tenure (thanks to Rivera running him into the ground? Are we gonna forget him turning 2-10 Temple (whose fans absolutely poo on him in year 2) to an 11 win team & Baylor, who had one won the year before to an 11 won team facing Oklahoma in the Big12 championship?

 

yeah lets just throw all that away and start the rebuild from year one…. Again

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1 minute ago, Kraybrothers said:

So are we just throwing out everything he did in year one? Taking a dumpster team with 14 playera left from the last regime, building an elite defense,

The "elite defense" is largely a mirage built on the backs of performances against struggling offenses and rookie QBs. Against good offensive teams like Tampa, Minnesota and Dallas, they look far from "elite".

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4 minutes ago, Kraybrothers said:

So are we just throwing out everything he did in year one? Taking a dumpster team with 14 playera left from the last regime, building an elite defense, bringing in 12 sack Reddick and 1200 yard receiver Robby Anderson? Being competitive in every game with bum ass Bridgewater at QB. Trying to aggressively trade for a real franchise QB multiple times (Stafford, Watson), his #8 overall pick and our star player being out his entire tenure (thanks to Rivera running him into the ground? Are we gonna forget him turning 2-10 Temple (whose fans absolutely poo on him in year 2) to an 11 win team & Baylor, who had one won the year before to an 11 won team facing Oklahoma in the Big12 championship?

 

yeah lets just throw all that away and start the rebuild from year one…. Again

Don’t think we need a rebuild we have a good stock of guys here. A few more pieces and competent staff will put us in the playoff race next season.

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His biggest mistake besides hiring Rhule in the first place was giving him a 7 year deal. That gave Rhule the freedom to experiment without the pressure of feeling like he had to win right away. And now it’s tepper that looks impatient if he goes back on public statements that building a contnder doesn’t happen overnight. Tepper radically overestimated Rhule and radically underestimated the misery of consistent losing in the NFL. All due to arrogance.

If he’s still arrogant and overconfident, and I have no reason to believe that isn’t the case, he’s going to double down and keep the clown for another season. 

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