Panthers Met with Kenny Pickett. Also Jimmy G wants to go to a Winning team

[BurnNChinn]

5 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Not sure we should be surprised the Panthers met with Pickett.  I would hope the Panthers would meet with every first round QB prospect.

Not me we need to go oline we keeping Fhule then make him play Darnold so then we get a new coach next year. Then they can pick their qb of the future.

[45catfan]

Rhule already has Pickett QB1 on his mental draft board.  Dude will weasel...I mean, convince the rest of the staff he's the best player in the draft.

Rhule should take his millions and open a car lot.  He won't have to put in near the amount of time and still kill it.  He can sale you a sh!t stained pair of underwear and tell you that decorative stripes are all the rage now...that you got a steal for $10.

[BrianS]

1 minute ago, t96 said:

I do like Pickett but the value isn't great at our pick. Would love to trade down and pick up a 2nd rounder + more and then take Pickett later in the 1st so we can go OL in the 2nd. But at 6 I'm not so sure about him.

This is false thinking.

I understand positional value, but you cannot talk about it when you are looking at QB's.  It just doesn't apply.  You evaluate every QB, and if your evaluations tell you "That's a franchise QB" and he's on the board when you are on the clock, you take him.

First round QB's are generally a coin flip:  50% chance of success.  But it beats the ever living heck out of QB's from every other round where the success rate is about 10%.

Now, if you're on the clock and there isn't a franchise QB, then absolutely, positional value becomes part of the equation - as do a myriad of other factors.

 

[frankw]

Still plenty of time between now and the draft but it seems obvious Pickett will be under heavy consideration for us. The hand size stuff is funny but more just for headlines. All I need to know is can he play football? If it's him or someone like Jimmy G then I would rather just roll the dice in the draft. Folks need to go ahead and accept we will be throwing high draft picks at QB until we hit same as other franchises before us. This was the future that awaited us when so many of you were practically celebrating the demise of Newton's career. Don't cry now.

[d-dave]

Just now, BrianS said:

This is false thinking.

I understand positional value, but you cannot talk about it when you are looking at QB's.  It just doesn't apply.  You evaluate every QB, and if your evaluations tell you "That's a franchise QB" and he's on the board when you are on the clock, you take him.

First round QB's are generally a coin flip:  50% chance of success.  But it beats the ever living heck out of QB's from every other round where the success rate is about 10%.

Now, if you're on the clock and there isn't a franchise QB, then absolutely, positional value becomes part of the equation - as do a myriad of other factors.

 

Yep, QBs are a different animal.  You either have your franchise QB or you don't.  If you don't, you got and get them.  If the team believes Pickett can be the guy, then they have to pick him.  You can't screw this up.

Now if you do, you get fired.  But if you don't take your risks, you never benefit if you win.

[KSpan]

22 minutes ago, Zod said:

Just an annual pre draft reminder that the Panthers will be speaking with every single first round prospect. 

Some of them even more than once...

#smokescreen

[t96]

3 minutes ago, BrianS said:

This is false thinking.

I understand positional value, but you cannot talk about it when you are looking at QB's.  It just doesn't apply.  You evaluate every QB, and if your evaluations tell you "That's a franchise QB" and he's on the board when you are on the clock, you take him.

First round QB's are generally a coin flip:  50% chance of success.  But it beats the ever living heck out of QB's from every other round where the success rate is about 10%.

Now, if you're on the clock and there isn't a franchise QB, then absolutely, positional value becomes part of the equation - as do a myriad of other factors.

 

None of these QBs this year are great prospects and none would even go in the first round in other drafts, frankly. You absolutely do not need to reach for a QB just because you think one could turn into a franchise QB. 

[frankw]

1 minute ago, t96 said:

None of these QBs this year are great prospects and none would even go in the first round in other drafts, frankly.

Oh look we got another Ms Cleo. Since you know everything why don't you just go ahead and tell us who we are going to pick and what the Panthers record will be next season?

[TheRumGone]

27 minutes ago, Skack25 said:

I'd rather put my balls in a blender than have either of those scenarios.

I’d rather draft Malik then either of those other two options but if I had to pick between the two it would be Pickett. We already know what Jimmy is and while Pickett is probably going to end up a game manager at best we don’t 100% know that. 

[amcoolio]

26 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Rhule already has Pickett QB1 on his mental draft board.  Dude will weasel...I mean, convince the rest of the staff he's the best player in the draft.

Rhule should take his millions and open a car lot.  He won't have to put in near the amount of time and still kill it.  He can sale you a sh!t stained pair of underwear and tell you that decorative stripes are all the rage now...that you got a steal for $10.

Source? You are trying way too hard

[amcoolio]

At this point I would go with attitude, swag and intangibles rather than skillset. Pickett reminds me of Blaine Gabbert and Sam Darnold more than Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert based on that interview. No thanks.

[ncfan]

 

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

At this point I would go with attitude, swag and intangibles rather than skillset. Pickett reminds me of Blaine Gabbert and Sam Darnold more than Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert based on that interview. No thanks.

Eh questions swirled around Herbert too. It is revisionist history to suggest that he was a slam dunk consensus top QB. Even fans here talked junk about him for months.

[TLGPanthersFan]

37 minutes ago, t96 said:

I do like Pickett but the value isn't great at our pick. Would love to trade down and pick up a 2nd rounder + more and then take Pickett later in the 1st so we can go OL in the 2nd. But at 6 I'm not so sure about him.

Agree. Perfect situation is trade down to 10-15th and get a 1st and second. Draft Pickett or best QB and best OL available. 
 

But more than likely, like a lot of teams, if they think the player/QB they want may be gone by 10 to 15th they will jump the gun. Depends what QB needy teams are after us and what those teams may select.