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This Panthers team might be a hard team to beat going forward

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1 hour ago, Seltzer said:

Seriously, where are the Panthers deeply flawed... outside of QB?  B/c I've watched this team since the beginning, and it has been evident to me that this roster was far too talented for the crap product Rhule put on the field.

Rhule sucked as an NFL coach, and he bungled QB about as bad as possible, but he did ok rebuilding the awful roster he inherited.

The Panthers are light years better in the trenches than 3 years ago.  That is not insignificant.  Cam would have loved to have this offensive line and skill position group (even with CMC gone), b/c it's better than what we normally gave him.

Obviously, nothing trumps getting QB right, but it's simply not true that this team has a deeply flawed roster.  And losing CMC obviously hurts (although Foreman & Hubbard looked fine), but Robbie was addition by subtraction.

I was worried about TE & LB, but the LBers have played well even though not elite.  We could still use another TE, but Thomas is a good blocker, and hopefully we will continue to develop Tremble as a pass catcher... most TE's take some time.

Is this roster on par with the Bills or Chiefs?  Of course not. 

But I vehemently disagree with the notion that this roster is a trainwreck but it's not.  

And as we start getting some competent QB play, that fact will continue to become more apparent.

 

Except for QB they haven’t done bad and made progress towards having a well rounded team that can compete up front, which is to me the most sensible way to rebuild a roster. Get it ready for the QB you are going to ride with. 
I mean it is not rocket science and it doesn’t much matter what year or decade it is: a strong running game (meaning good OL) and a strong D are a young QBs best friend. At worst you can maybe make the playoffs with a game manager. It just gives your team the best foundation to succeed. OL DL is freaking important. More important than a valuing a RB in the top ten (same thing with Stew when we took him 8th or something). 

And what Tepper and Rhule did with Bridgewater, Darnold, and Mayfield even, was just bad decision making. 

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8 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Felt like the first time this team has scored 3 offensive TDs in a single game in about 5 years

Yes but at the game it felt like the Bucs were having a 4 quarter stroke outside of a couple of plays. Didn't feel like great football but better and a lot more fun. 

Leftwhich pretty much proved why he should not be inconsideration for a HC job yet. Yikes and I was looking forward to seeing what he can do the rest of this year in relation to our search. 

 

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It is the way of the fan.  Get too high get too low game by game.  Yesterday was a good day and some fun football to watch.  We will see if this staff can keep us from getting too predictable and have enough to overcome the teams down the line that will be watching film on what we are doing week to week.  We've seen enough Walker to know you are not going to get what you got yesterday week to week.  It is what separates average quarterbacks from the great ones.  I hope he can sustain what he started.  

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2 hours ago, trucpfan said:

I don’t believe we’re world beaters but we have the talent to win. We basically fall in line with the Jets/Giants IMO with Wilks coaching a serviceable qb (based off yesterday) and a strong defense which gives a chance to win every game. Being that we weren’t playing some of our talented players which should help us win let’s say half the games left and winning the South lol crazy at seems. If we win this week get you playoff tickets money ready.

This comment sums up the difference in our season we aren’t a great team but if you really watch you know there’s so much parody in the league most games come down to a few good decisions by a coach. We’ve simply lacked that for 2 1/2 years and we all know his personnel decisions were horrendous. IE BC’s arms are a little short for LT the next year he could be our starting LT let him battle it out with a pure stud top LT taken. That kind of decision making was just out right comical and slowed down development for all players.

The Jets & Giants are perfect comps.  Not SB caliber rosters, but certainly playoff caliber.

Which is what the Panthers are with even adequate coaching and QB play

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3 hours ago, Shocker said:

We went from the worst team ever before yesterday’s game to a playoff contender in some peoples eyes.  That’s why the NFL is the best.  Even if it’s lunacy 

As I keep on telling people, this is easily a .500 roster with good QB play. On Sunday, Walker was good - he won't keep that up.

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4 hours ago, panthersgreenville said:

Phillip Walker is the wild card here, (he’s a 26 year old man, not a 12 year old, so yes, I prefer Philip to PJ, and besides, Phillip Walker sounds more like a NFL QB and less like an XFL one) Anyway if Phillip can keep making the kind of throws he made yesterday..

 A beastly O line? Check. What appears to be a one/two punch running game? Check. 

A monster defense? Check.

A great WR in Moore with some solid complimentary WRs around him? Check.

A QB with something to prove and a head coach who would practically sell his soul to become the actual HC of this team going forward?! Check and check.

Let’s assume we keep up this level of play going forward, what weaknesses do we have? Seattle, Bengals and Ravens, if we lose those three and win the rest of the schedule, we are 9-8 and NFCS champs.

One win you homers and you homers think we are world beaters. One week ago this team owned the first pick in the draft and was utterly atrocious.  This team is still fuging terrible. You prob think this team has 8 pro bowlers like the other homer thread today. 

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