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OL PFFs grades are out. *Warning for the weak stomach*

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Carl Spackler

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21 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

I swear scheme is more important than results to these guys. 
 

it was working. 5.7 yards/run average and you give him 10 Carries? We could have potentially run for 180 - 200 yards yesterday. 

It was definitely stupid. "This worked -- stop doing it"

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1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

So out of 59 offensive plays. 36 were called passes. Not sure why more passes than runs yesterday, but that's another story. 

 

That one is pretty easy to figure out.  When the game was close, we were mixing run and pass.  In the fourth qtr, when we were way behind, we threw it more.  Not one single running play in the fourth qtr.  

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1 hour ago, Lame Duck said:

I’d say our issue is coaching.  Not sure how our OL went from top OL in NFL to dead last with the same people.  I know we switched from man to zone because that’s what Reich wanted.

It's really incredible and indicative of how bad a job Reich has done. Nearly the same players on OL (Zavala instead of Brady only change) and same OL coach (highly regarded) and go from above average to by far worst in the league. Coaches need to 1 work with GM to get players that fit your scheme and after that 2 adjust scheme to fit players you do wind up with on the roster. It wouldn't have made any sense to gut the entire OL that had success last year so Frank needed to adjust his scheme to work with these guys, which he hasn't at all. 

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This o-line was supposed to be a strength coming into this season so that's just terrible. If there's anything that Bryce has proved this season is that he is tough. If my math is correct, he is on pace to be sacked 64 times this season (averaging 4 sacks a game, being sacked at least once a game). I'm not sold on him or this coaching staff moving forward, but I would consider this season a win if they can go through a game without allowing the opposing team to sack him. It's not too hard to ask right? 

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6 minutes ago, t96 said:

It's really incredible and indicative of how bad a job Reich has done. Nearly the same players on OL (Zavala instead of Brady only change) and same OL coach (highly regarded) and go from above average to by far worst in the league. Coaches need to 1 work with GM to get players that fit your scheme and after that 2 adjust scheme to fit players you do wind up with on the roster. It wouldn't have made any sense to gut the entire OL that had success last year so Frank needed to adjust his scheme to work with these guys, which he hasn't at all. 

The players are good but they are completely confused and misused.

The scheme has become more important than actually winning. Chuba was trucking dudes. Sanders looked good…. Then they shut it down. 

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2 hours ago, ncfan said:

The NFL as a whole is going more and more out of the shotgun.  Jonathan Alexander mentioned Sunday Bryce is 10th in the NFL in pct out of the gun.

I believe NC State ran primary out of the gun in the spread too.

The lack of movement and motion is the most alarming thing to me.  And as it’s been pointed out.  It’s at the same pct and eearily similar to what he was doing in Indy before he was told to get lost.  It was just out of another base scheme.

Any modern day passing heavy offense uses a ton of pre snap motion etc.  and we’re literally doing none of it.

as Josh Norris said last week.

Frank Reich is outdated in todays league.

I don’t disagree that Frank is outdated but I think a more helpful percentage would be under center rather than shotgun.  I really doubt there’s 9 other QBs who play less under center than Bryce.

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1 hour ago, t96 said:

It's really incredible and indicative of how bad a job Reich has done. Nearly the same players on OL (Zavala instead of Brady only change) and same OL coach (highly regarded) and go from above average to by far worst in the league. Coaches need to 1 work with GM to get players that fit your scheme and after that 2 adjust scheme to fit players you do wind up with on the roster. It wouldn't have made any sense to gut the entire OL that had success last year so Frank needed to adjust his scheme to work with these guys, which he hasn't at all. 

Look at how much better the Colts OL looks this year vs last year when Matt Ryan was getting sacked at an alarming rate.  Reich has to go if we want to see our OL improve.  

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2 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Chuba got 10 carries for 57 yards. 

Sanders went 11 for 50. 

We were gashing these dudes. The running game was keeping us in the game. We actually had a rhythm. 
 

Is there some vendetta against trying to win like this? Hell, those runs go for more than a typical Bryce check down. 

Yes. Our owner doesn’t want to win that way. He made in very clear in the offseason.

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