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Mingo done for the year with foot injury


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1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Mingo was a second rounder in a lot of mocks, and compared favorably to guys like AJ and Metcalf and obviously came from the same program. Plus, the panthers really wanted Nolan smith there if he had fallen. They also wanted one of the two guards that went shortly before. 
 

I don’t think Mingo was a horrible reach, and I think it’s just how the draft shook out. 
 

the worst move besides Bryce was passing on Darnell Washington to move up for Johnson. Just sickening. 

I disagree to an extent.  AJ and Metcalf looked pretty fast and explosive on tape.  Mingo definitely didn't, and it shows.  He just ran a decent 40 time.  Which means nothing when the game starts if it doesnt show up there.

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15 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

I'm sick of drafting wrs outside of R1 that don't pan out. Wasting too many draft picks and roster spots. 

A random number generator would create more draft hits than their scouting and assessments. It truly is pathetic and an argument could be made for actively sabotaging the team from an enemy within. You cannot be this bad at drafting by mistake.

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4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Wait he played this season?

 

Didn't notice the guy was on the team until this report came.

I think y’all hate on him a little too much. I stand firm he’s going to pan out in the next few years if Tepper hasn’t completely fugged this team.

That said, that was funny.

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2 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I don't really understand why we reached on this guy and DJ Johnson instead of trading back up into the late 1st to take a guy like Zay Flowers.  There were some good receivers on the board still, but we waited until they were gone to go after Mingo.

Like I said in the pff thread. Mingo was barely a top 10 WR in my eyes ..for him to be the 5th taken is WILD to me. 

Downs, Reed, Rice, Hyatt, Dell... 

We picked at 39...the receivers stayed on the board until the 20s iirc.. JSN, Johnson, Flowers, Addison ...then Mingo!?!? Incompetence. 

Maybe Mingo turns into Sanu/AJ Brown...rather than TMJ reincarnated. He has flashed so thats a positive but it doesn't bode well when 3/4th of a message board are annually better at identifying talent than our actual scouting department. 

 

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2 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

I disagree to an extent.  AJ and Metcalf looked pretty fast and explosive on tape.  Mingo definitely didn't, and it shows.  He just ran a decent 40 time.  Which means nothing when the game starts if it doesnt show up there.

This is not Mingo's problem.  At all.  His stats are very comparable with most rookie WR's taken in the first three rounds with one exception:  Catch Percentage.  His is 50%.

He has the same problem another of our round 2 flops had:  Devin Funchess.  I know nobody wants to hear it, but there it is.  He's a big receiver who plays small. 

He needs to spend time learning to body people up and use his hands.  You can't teach 6'2", 220lbs.  Hopefully someone can teach him to catch 70% of his targets and impose himself on DB's.

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4 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Its not about giving up on him, its the way overdrafting that fitt did to get him

 

and edit to say this was the wr that blew the org away in interviews in charlotte.  sound familiar?  How about we draft motherfugers that can play football instead of ones that interview well.

We got bryce and mingo and lost Stechien because of interviews.  What the fug are you guys doing?

I'm not saying that we didn't overdraft him (I agree), but He has shown some flashes and the tape has looked decent.  Just like Bryce, until he gets a coaching staff that isn't licking windows and eating paint chips its hard to truly evaluate him.  Steve Smith did an entire segment breaking him down and I saw some really positive flashes, but its gonna take competent coaching and improved talent around him to be able to show up.  I mean, Tank Dell looks like an absolute stud, but in fairness he benefitted from being able to work a limited route tree, having a VERY good Nico Collins opposite, and a much better O-line than anything we have here.  

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1 hour ago, BrianS said:

This is not Mingo's problem.  At all.  His stats are very comparable with most rookie WR's taken in the first three rounds with one exception:  Catch Percentage.  His is 50%.

He has the same problem another of our round 2 flops had:  Devin Funchess.  I know nobody wants to hear it, but there it is.  He's a big receiver who plays small. 

He needs to spend time learning to body people up and use his hands.  You can't teach 6'2", 220lbs.  Hopefully someone can teach him to catch 70% of his targets and impose himself on DB's.

I was talking directly in comparisons to Metcalf.   Metcalf doesnt play as big as he could either.  It doesn't matter how big a player plays if they cant create any seperation.   Thats not how nfl offenses are ran anymore. 

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