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Bryce likely out next week


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2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Any Bryce defender on the coaching staff or in the front office is going to be secretly rooting for us to get utterly destroyed if he is out for the game.

The worst case scenario for any of them who still want to be starting Bryce is for it to be like when Dalton came in for him his rookie year.  If he comes in and lights it up and we look like a real life NFL passing offense, it's going to be really tough to still sell Bryce to the fans or other players.

Another delusional take keep up the good work 

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4 hours ago, Pantherxtreme said:

If Bryce is out I'll like to see what Dalton can do with this offense the last time he was called up he didnt have much to work with. 

A disgruntled Diontae Johnson and old man Theilen. 

We have the deepest receiver room we've had in a long time.

Some good young TE's.

And strong rushing attack with Rico (should be Rb1) and Chuba.

Good offensive line depth. 

Say what you want when Dalton came in the passing game started pushing the ball down the field, not so much with Bryce.

Young stats: 15-25 for 138 yards and his two longest pass plays went to Chuba for 26 yards and Rico for 17 yards. 

Dalton stats: 4-7 for 60 yards he eclipsed almost half of Youngs yardage in just 4 pass completions. 

We have outside weapons we need to be able to keep defenses honest in order to make this offense work. 

 

 

 

 

It’s this type of delusional thinking that has this board thinking any QB could come here and succeed. 

And bringing up Andy’s passing stats when 33 of those yards came on the final play when the Jets were playing the run is a choice. Both of Andy’s deep balls were horribly under thrown. Had he given TMac a chance maybe the ref would’ve called PI but that ball was so bad the ref wasn’t bailing him out  

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1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

It’s this type of delusional thinking that has this board thinking any QB could come here and succeed. 

And bringing up Andy’s passing stats when 33 of those yards came on the final play when the Jets were playing the run is a choice. Both of Andy’s deep balls were horribly under thrown. Had he given TMac a chance maybe the ref would’ve called PI but that ball was so bad the ref wasn’t bailing him out  

It was 3rd and 8 when Andy sealed the game on the 33 yard pass to Legette and the Jets still had a timeout if they were playing the run either their head coach or you doesnt need to be anywhere on a field coaching a football game. 

He gave his receiver a chance to make a play and his receiver did, seemed like an accurate pass to me and the results matched it. 

Agian as I said I would like to see how the offense looks with Andy or any Qb with the group of weapons we have if Byrce is out for awhile.

I've seen what he can do, good kid, he's improved alot, but this offense still seems limited. 

 

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1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

It’s this type of delusional thinking that has this board thinking any QB could come here and succeed. 

And bringing up Andy’s passing stats when 33 of those yards came on the final play when the Jets were playing the run is a choice. Both of Andy’s deep balls were horribly under thrown. Had he given TMac a chance maybe the ref would’ve called PI but that ball was so bad the ref wasn’t bailing him out  

So what you're saying is that even a completely washed Dalton has more big play potential than Young?

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7 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Any Bryce defender on the coaching staff or in the front office is going to be secretly rooting for us to get utterly destroyed if he is out for the game.

The worst case scenario for any of them who still want to be starting Bryce is for it to be like when Dalton came in for him his rookie year.  If he comes in and lights it up and we look like a real life NFL passing offense, it's going to be really tough to still sell Bryce to the fans or other players.

You need to go outside and get some fresh air.

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Dalton always gives us one great game every year since he's been here.  And that one great game has always come when he is inserted into the lineup due to Bryce either being injured or playing bad.  I expect Dalton to throw 400+ yards and 4+touchdowns.  Rico and Chuba will combine for 300 yards rushing and 2+ touchdowns.  We win in a blowout.

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Let's be honest, both Dalton and Bryce sucks. However, Dalton can definitely replicate Bryce's 150 yds a game. That's not the problem. The problem is Canales will get cute and have Dalton throw the ball 40+ times even though the Bills have the 31st ranked run defense. If the gameplan isn't to run Dowdle and Chuba 40+ times, then we already lost before the game started. 

The people saying we're gonna lose because Bryce is out is hilarious, acting like he's been the main catalyst for our 3 game winning streak lol Yeah, we more than likely lose, but it won't be because Bryce was out, it will be because Canales went full retard like yesterday. 

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