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I wake up this morning full of rage towards Ronald McDonald Rivera / Gettleman / Hurney

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7 hours ago, MHS831 said:

To the OP's credit, Ron Rivera, imo, used Cam at times like a fullback.  The fact that he never had back-to-back winning seasons with a stud QB says a lot.  The OL was an afterthought.  Cam saved RR's job many times.  RR was NFC coach of the year twice during that time, but he never earned it.  I wish we had kept Fox.  He got it.  Never had a great QB and won more.

I can't be the only one that remembers people always clamoring to use him more like a fullback? People claiming that was one of his biggest strengths using him to run in the short yardage and goal to go situations. Feels like when it was happening people actually wanted him to run even more because most of his injuries happened in the pocket. This hindsight narrative that Ron ran him into the ground doesn't really hold water when you look at what most people felt was the best way to use Cam at the time.

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As bad as Hurney was at least he drafted Luke Kuechly. A big chunk of the huddle didn't want LB in round 1. A big chunk of the huddle didn't want Cam Newton either.

Just be thankful we even got a glimpse of such talent. Sure as hell never got anything like that with Scott Fitterer.

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4 minutes ago, frankw said:

As bad as Hurney was at least he drafted Luke Kuechly. A big chunk of the huddle didn't want LB in round 1. A big chunk of the huddle didn't want Cam Newton either.

Just be thankful we even got a glimpse of such talent. Sure as hell never got anything like that with Scott Fitterer.

I didn't want to draft Luke given many clear reasons. RR at least knew how to grade ILBs, he called Luke the best college LB he's seen. 

Herniay was maybe the best 1st picker in NFL. Rounds 2-7 and Free agency, he was one of the worst. He let emotions enter with the Jake resigning and overpayed countless players Charles Johnson, Dwill, Jstew, Anderson, etc. He never build a deep team, just nailed on 92% of those 1st rounders. 

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I didn't want to draft Luke given many clear reasons. RR at least knew how to grade ILBs, he called Luke the best college LB he's seen. 

Herniay was maybe the best 1st picker in NFL. Rounds 2-7 and Free agency, he was one of the worst. He let emotions enter with the Jake resigning and overpayed countless players Charles Johnson, Dwill, Jstew, Anderson, etc. He never build a deep team, just nailed on 92% of those 1st rounders. 

If we could bring him back solely in a capacity to pick his brain once a year for his first round draft pick input and absolutely nothing else I would do that.

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Rivera and Hurney got us to a SB. It was a awesome year, but Cam fumbled the fairy tale ending.  Poo happens. There's more to life than some stupid game grown men play. 

One day we might get to go back, but highly doubtful with that piece of 💩 Tepper micro managing things..

 

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12 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

Rivera and Hurney got us to a SB. It was a awesome year, but Cam fumbled the fairy tale ending.  Poo happens. There's more to life than some stupid game grown men play. 

One day we might get to go back, but highly doubtful with that piece of 💩 Tepper micro managing things..

 

The NFL changed the rules on targeting players the next year after the SB with the way DEN players has diving at Cams head spearing him not even tackling him. So I doubt it was just "Cam fumbling it away"

Guess people forget what really happen SB50, just like the people who forget NE cheating with all the HOF snub stuff..

 

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Rivera was not a great coach, the team absolutely would have been more consistent with a different, better staff. But on the flip side the staff could have also ruined Cam before his career even got started. He was OROY and won an MVP award. Cam had very high bust potential if he went to the wrong situation. 

All they had to do was double team Von Miller on one play and they would have won a Superbowl. And Cotchery caught it. 

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Shouldve paid J-No.  Gettleman outsmarted himself, got to sniffin his own farts and fuged the 2016 season where we could have ran it back.  We dropped from 11th in Y/G passing to 29th...thats a plummet.  We were still decent against the run, but without being able to stop the pass it fuged us.  

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