Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Don't reach

Zod

By Zod,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Popular Post
Zod Grand Master

Zod

Posted
  • Popular Post
Posted

Below is a comprehensive list of QBs drafted in the top 5 that were traded up for:

Sam Darnold
Mitchell Trubisky
Carson Wentz
Jared Goff
Robert Griffin III
Mark Sanchez
Michael Vick
Ryan Leaf
Jeff George
Steve Bartkowski

Don't reach!

  • Pie 17
  • Beer 9
  • Flames 1
  • Poo 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
bobcat91 Proficient

bobcat91

Posted
Posted

Reaching is in the eye of the beholder. This is a quarterback driven league and many teams in front of us and several behind us need qbs. Everyone knows the 4 at the top of the draft, but no one knows who will be a failure. Lawrence going to Jacksonville,  one of the leagues worst franchises may not work out. Lance may be the best of the bunch, but there is very little film on him and not major competition. We can't win in the league with Teddy Bridgewater and this is the closest we will get to a franchise qb while still having to give up 2 number ones. No one knows who is a reach.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
SCO96 Veteran

SCO96

Posted
Posted
26 minutes ago, Captroop said:

Leaf, Sanchez, RGIII, Wentz, Darnold.

One thing for damn sure: You don't trade up for the second best QB in the draft.

A lot of us on the Forum agree with you, but I would guess almost 50% feel like we have to get Wilson, Fields, or Lance THIS YEAR or franchise is forever doomed. All of these guys have question marks.

Fields in from OHIO STATE...nuff said

Wilson has nice numbers, but he really hasn't played against any elite programs from the power 5 conferences. That's not his fault, but it does leave some room for doubt.

Lance didn't even play last year after he opted out of the spring FCS decision.  Here's a link to a good article on him. I'll post a portion of the article below the link.

https://247sports.com/Article/ESPN-Mel-Kiper-Jr-calls-Trey-Lance-most-fascinating-player-in-NFL-Draft-2021-North-Dakota-State-Football-160732511/

ESPN NFL Draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. believes Lance is one of the most fascinating players in the draft.

"That's the most fascinating player in the draft probably in a long time is Trey Lance because of the circumstances you had to deal with COVID," Kiper said on the latest First Draft podcast. “Only one football game they played. If you go back to that game, whether it was rusty or pressing, he did not throw the ball well. He was 15 of 30 against Central Arkansas, threw the first interception of his career.

As I said, it was 15 of 17 starts he threw the ball 23 times or fewer. You had five games in 2019, 56.5 or less in terms of completion percentage. This is a ultimate leap of faith on talent. If you're taking Trey Lance and you're giving up all that to go up from eight to three to get him if you're Carolina Panthers. I get you're in a division with Atlanta. Matt Ryan can't be there forever. Tampa Bay, Brady not gonna be there forever, and New Orleans is still figuring out Taysom Hill.

“So I get you want to find the quarterback you feel most strongly about. I understand that completely, if it's Trey Lance, great, do it. But Trey Lance, to me, the most difficult and the most fascinating player to evaluate, since I've probably been doing this and I've been doing it for 43 years."

"I think Lance, all these quarterbacks can play right away, but he's got to sit for a year or two. He's 20 years of age. Doesn't turn 21 until early May, arguably the youngest player in this draft...So to me, he's got to sit, watch and learn. You have Teddy Bridgewater will be kind of that bridge to Trey Lance if you go that route."

----

If he's there at 8 I can see taking a chance. But, I'm not giving up several years of high choices to nab him at #2 or #3.

  • Pie 3
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted
28 minutes ago, TreadmillTrackstar said:

Not considering Michael Vick's legal.issues but didn't he turn out pretty decent for the Falcons? I know I couldn't stand him as a Panthers fan but he had a fairly decent career and even thereafter in coming back after prison I thought.

Falcons traded up to the #1 overall pick....and that pick won them more than 8 games only once in his career.    

I guess an argument could of been made for butts in the seat, national relevance, and fun until his off the field problem emerged.    

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ivan The Awesome Mentor

Ivan The Awesome

Posted
Posted
48 minutes ago, Captroop said:

Leaf, Sanchez, RGIII, Wentz, Darnold.

One thing for damn sure: You don't trade up for the second best QB in the draft.

One could argue that several of those guys went to really shitty organizations. I mean the Jets? The Skins? Organizations that don't know how to build around their QB or have meddling owners. Dysfunctional. As of now, Tepper doesn't seem that way and this regime is in its infancy. I rather them take a shot at finding their guy than not do anything about it. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • tukafan21
      Mini camp tweets

      By tukafan21 · Posted

      What?!?!?! Chark's 1,000 yard season was 4 years before he played for us and he only had 525 yards in 15 games as our #1 WR.  Dude has 3,100 yards in 7 seasons, he's the literal definition of a JAG and you think he is better than half our current WR room? T-Mac is literally already better than Chark was at his peak, which again, was years before he ever even put on a Panthers uniform, and there is a real argument to be made that XL and Coker were both better as rookies than Chark was for us in his one season here.
    • Seltzer
      The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview

      By Seltzer · Posted

      Im glad we're starting low. It's nonsensical to put us at 28 IMHO based on objective things IMHO (I think 21-24) is far more appropriate but whatever. Washington was at the bottom last year FWIW.  In 2003, Sports Illustrated said our best chance to win the division was to transfer to the ACC. In 2015, everyone wrote us off as a team that snuck into the playoffs with a losing record in 2014 and lost our best WR in TC (Kelvin Benjamin). All these videos are fodder for conversation, but this prediction has no more validity than saying the Panthers are making the SB bc we're starting the season against the Jaguars again. If Bryce plays like he did down the stretch we will end up the season just fine. This roster is much better than it has been the last 2 seasons. No one knows who any season will ultimately end up, but this team is finally being built in the right way, and the idea that this roster can't compete this year is as insane as being it was when we were gaslit in 2023 that we were a rookie QB from winning the division with that roster.  
    • Seltzer
      The Franchise guy Panthers 2025 deep dive overview

      By Seltzer · Posted

      Im glad we're starting low. It's nonsensical to put us at 28 IMHO based on objective things IMHO (I think 21-24) is far more appropriate but whatever. Washington was at the bottom last year FWIW.  In 2003, Sports Illustrated said our best chance to win the division was to transfer to the ACC. In 2015, everyone wrote us off as a team that snuck into the playoffs with a losing record in 2014 and lost our best WR in TC (Kelvin Benjamin). All these videos are fodder for conversation, but this prediction has no more validity than saying the Panthers are making the SB bc we're starting the season against the Jaguars again. If Bryce plays like he did down the stretch we will end up the season just fine. This roster is much better than it has been the last 2 seasons. No one knows who any season will ultimately end up, but this team is finally being built in the right way, and the idea that this roster can't compete this year is as insane as being it was when we were gaslit in 2023 that we were a rookie QB from winning the division with that roster.  
×
×
  • Create New...