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What are some examples of QBs who were once considered huge busts, but revived their career on another team?


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3 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

Believe me, I am absolutely sure Darnold is ecstatic to get to start over and especially with a team that HAS weapons. I am sure the coaching staff is also as excited to have a QB that actually will hit players further than 30 yards and in stride and not throw behind or go off script and then not recognize it. 

 

It's a win win man. 

 

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4 hours ago, bobowilson said:

I've seen Ryan Tannehill cited, but he was actually above average in on a terrible Miami team.

In his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th season, he passed for over 4000 yards.   His passer rating was always in the 90s, and while not a top tier QB, you couldn't really call him a bust.  Tannehill went from pretty good to better, so I would never compare him to Darnold's disastrous start.

Drew Brees was also very good in San Diego;  are there any examples we can use to have hope for Darnold?

As long as we don't have a uniform, agreed upon, definitive definition of a bust, there is really no point for this conversation/debate. 

He wasn't considered a bust by his peers,  coaches, or experts. 

But because you and other "fans" wish to label h a bust, then he is. Great conversational starter. 

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Favre was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons in the second round with the 33rd overall pick in the 1991 NFL Draft.[15] On July 19, 1991, Favre agreed to a three-year, US$1.4 million contract with a reported signing bonus of $350,000.[16] Atlanta head coach Jerry Glanville did not approve of the drafting of Favre, saying it would take a plane crash for him to put Favre into the game.[17] Favre's first pass in an NFL regular season game resulted in an interception returned for a touchdown in a game against the Washington Redskins.[18][19] He only attempted four passes in his career at Atlanta, was intercepted twice, and completed none of them. Favre took one other snap, which resulted in a sack for an eleven-yard loss.[20]

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4 hours ago, stbugs said:

I hate how people act like Tannehill was better his first two years than Darnold. He wasn't. Only in year 3 did he play better than Darnold and he wasn't coached by Gase. He also had a better player at every skilled offensive position in his year 3 and he was 3 years older than Darnold. Darnold wasn't actually "bad" until last year. He actually had the same improvement in year 2 that Tannehill had and finished year 2 well. The Jets then decided to tank in 2020.

It pains me when people talk bad about Herndon (who'd walk into our TE room and be the man tomorrow) and Berrios (who'd happily fit into our WR corps as a slot guy). 

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