Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

LTs & arm length (basically: This draft's OTs are great but...)

saX man

By saX man,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

saX man Mentor

saX man

Posted
Posted

This year's offensive line class is really good.  Really damn good.  I think 5 first rounders.  9-11 in the top-50.

But what I can't get past is that it's rather undersized; even the top talents. Fit mentioned how important size is and gotta say, I do wonder how it's swayed our opinions on some of these guys.

Notable League-starter LTs:

Wirfs: 34"

Bahktiari: 34"

Trent W: 34.5"

Duane Brown: 34.25"

Whitworth: 35"

Dion Dawkins: 35"

Hell, Moton: 34.13"

Draft Prospects:

There are 3 total LT prospects even over the typical 34" threshold: Darrisaw (34.5"), Leatherwood (34.4), & Spencer Brown (34).  Darrisaw is the one true LT prospect IMO.

Notable shortees:

Penei Sewell: 33.25"

Rashawn Slater: 33.00"

Teven Jenkins: 32.88"

Jalen Mayfield: 32.63"

Liam Eichenberg: 32.35"

Samuel Cosmi: 33.00"

Dillon Radunz: 33.28"

--

I'm not intending to throw shade as all 7 of my shortlist are really awesome talents and there are no doubt exceptions to the rule like Jason Peters. However, given what we've heard, I'm curious to who we like the most.  Wonder if Darrisaw (who draws Okung comparisons) is viewed highly and could be a trade down target. 

I don't believe arms length to be make or break but a lot of teams deem it critical on the LT criteria list. This draft has GREAT OL talent, and we better capitalize, but IMO, last year's was superb and this years is slightly behind.

Whatsayyou? How important is arm length?  Does it warrant pause even if they look like absolute brick walls on tape? I mean, in Slater's case, this is even in the face of Chase Young last year, really controlled the dude. 

 

 

 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Panthero Mentor

Panthero

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, saX man said:

This year's offensive line class is really good.  Really damn good.  I think 5 first rounders.  9-11 in the top-50.

But what I can't get past is that it's rather undersized; even the top talents. Fit mentioned how important size is and gotta say, I do wonder how it's swayed our opinions on some of these guys.

Notable League-starter LTs:

Wirfs: 34"

Bahktiari: 34"

Trent W: 34.5"

Duane Brown: 34.25"

Whitworth: 35"

Dion Dawkins: 35"

Hell, Moton: 34.13"

Draft Prospects:

There are 3 total LT prospects even over the typical 34" threshold: Darrisaw (34.5"), Leatherwood (34.4), & Spencer Brown (34).  Darrisaw is the one true LT prospect IMO.

Notable shortees:

Penei Sewell: 33.25"

Rashawn Slater: 33.00"

Teven Jenkins: 32.88"

Jalen Mayfield: 32.63"

Liam Eichenberg: 32.35"

Samuel Cosmi: 33.00"

Dillon Radunz: 33.28"

--

I'm not intending to throw shade as all 7 of my shortlist are really awesome talents and there are no doubt exceptions to the rule like Jason Peters. However, given what we've heard, I'm curious to who we like the most.  Wonder if Darrisaw (who draws Okung comparisons) is viewed highly and could be a trade down target. 

I don't believe arms length to be make or break but a lot of teams deem it critical on the LT criteria list. This draft has GREAT OL talent, and we better capitalize, but IMO, last year's was superb and this years is slightly behind.

Whatsayyou? How important is arm length?  Does it warrant pause even if they look like absolute brick walls on tape? I mean, in Slater's case, this is even in the face of Chase Young last year, really controlled the dude. 

 

 

 

Braveheart GIF

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 2
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Martin Grand Master

Martin

Posted
Posted

It is great for a tackle to have long arms, but it doesn’t mean you can’t be a great tackle with “just” 33 arms.

The best LT in the last decade, Joe Thomas, has 33 arms, and so does Joe Staley (good comp for Slater imo).

But great feet + long arms is ideal. But I think both Sewell and Slater will be great LTs.

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Honestly I read that it had to do with leverage particularly with outside speed rushers 

Nfl has stats on perfection for every position

 

Sure. It's better to have longer arms. If an edge rusher has longer arms than the OT he can better keep them from engaging him, but none of that comes in into play unless the OT has the feet to stay with him to begin with. It's kinda like how yeah, ideally you'd have a WR who was 6'2"+ and 210+ but would you pass up a Smitty because he didn't check those boxes? Some teams would. Those teams are dumb IMO. Prototypes exist for a reason, but you gotta evaluate each individual prospect IMO. 

 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
bythenbrs Grand Master

bythenbrs

Posted
Posted
23 minutes ago, saX man said:

This year's offensive line class is really good.  Really damn good.  I think 5 first rounders.  9-11 in the top-50.

But what I can't get past is that it's rather undersized; even the top talents. Fit mentioned how important size is and gotta say, I do wonder how it's swayed our opinions on some of these guys.

Notable League-starter LTs:

Wirfs: 34"

Bahktiari: 34"

Trent W: 34.5"

Duane Brown: 34.25"

Whitworth: 35"

Dion Dawkins: 35"

Hell, Moton: 34.13"

Draft Prospects:

There are 3 total LT prospects even over the typical 34" threshold: Darrisaw (34.5"), Leatherwood (34.4), & Spencer Brown (34).  Darrisaw is the one true LT prospect IMO.

Notable shortees:

Penei Sewell: 33.25"

Rashawn Slater: 33.00"

Teven Jenkins: 32.88"

Jalen Mayfield: 32.63"

Liam Eichenberg: 32.35"

Samuel Cosmi: 33.00"

Dillon Radunz: 33.28"

--

I'm not intending to throw shade as all 7 of my shortlist are really awesome talents and there are no doubt exceptions to the rule like Jason Peters. However, given what we've heard, I'm curious to who we like the most.  Wonder if Darrisaw (who draws Okung comparisons) is viewed highly and could be a trade down target. 

I don't believe arms length to be make or break but a lot of teams deem it critical on the LT criteria list. This draft has GREAT OL talent, and we better capitalize, but IMO, last year's was superb and this years is slightly behind.

Whatsayyou? How important is arm length?  Does it warrant pause even if they look like absolute brick walls on tape? I mean, in Slater's case, this is even in the face of Chase Young last year, really controlled the dude. 

 

 

 

Jordan Gross 33.25”

  • Pie 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Jackie Lee
      Schedule Release: Leaks and Rumors

      By Jackie Lee · Posted

      Either way there's some tough teams on the schedule this year, on paper anyways. 
    • Kentucky Panther
      Schedule Release: Leaks and Rumors

      By Kentucky Panther · Posted

      Same. I would prefer a MNF game earlier in the season. As if more likely has some significance in case things go south this season. If we perform well enough we could even get another game forced to a Sunday night spot later in the season. 
    • ladypanther
      The Carolina Huddle

      By ladypanther · Posted

      Wanted to jump into this thread. Although I do not post anymore I do look in as there are a few old friends around. Loved hearing some of the names you mentioned.  Another  oldie is NanceUSMC.  He is the one who got me here from the old Observer forum.  Good guy and smart football guy. I have learned a lot from a lot of good Huddlers over the years, Over time. we have sadly lost a few who left this earth too soon.  Anyone who know of someone, it would be nice to try to make a list.  One of the more recent, CosmoGirl,  was someone that kind of hit hard.  Life sucks sometimes. Some of the best times were when we had our own tailgate and could meet up in person.  I think it made us better. Several dedicated volunteers, lead by LiverMush, started setting things up in the wee hours of each gameday morning.  Don't know all those regulars but I remember JakeFlake was one.  For you newbies...each game,  a Huddler (or a group) sponsored the food for each tailgate.  Eating was free but a donation was asked for.  At the end of the year those donations were used to buy bicycles for Toys for Tots.  Over the years Huddlers bought a lot of new bikes for kids for Christmas.  (I am guessing a couple of hundred each year.)  We had a good time getting together, got to make friends in person, and then got to feel like you were doing something good. It was truly a community. I got to meet Dan Morgan at one of our tailgates...he brought pizza from his restaurant.  How many of you remember that?  Glad the restaurant did not make it....lol. Not only have people changed, and come and gone.....but the entire nature and purpose has changed. Nothing lasts forever and we move on but we still like to think about good times. Same reason we take pictures. Want to ask a question I have not seen anyone else mention......who remembers    "The Couch" ?  We have argued, laughed, lived the ups and downs of football and dealt with a little real life along the way.  A thanks to  the Mods who keep this going.  I am sure they sacrifice a lot of their time out of love for the forum and the Panthers. Take care my friends and be well.  I will close with my new favorite quote which I think is greatly needed in these difficult times.        
×
×
  • Create New...