Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

“I hate saying it. But the Panthers played with 10 guys on D last year”

ncfan

By ncfan,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

iamhubby1 Veteran

iamhubby1

Posted
Posted
11 minutes ago, Icege said:

To be fair, I was shooting 3 Wisemen and just wanted to point out that his deep ball wasn't that bad when he has both knees working and an OL that can give him longer than 2.5sec to let the play develop. 😳

But I also didn't say that Herbert didn't have arm talent when it was clearly on display. Kinda like folks that thought Gabbert was the #1 prospect when he was 0/1 on passes of 40+ yards the year he declared. 👀

 

Um, okay? I do believe you may have me mixed up with some other Huddler. lol

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
9 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Correlation does not imply causation.

We might have the strongest 4-3 LB history in the league since we entered the league. It's because we've also probably spent by far the most resources at the position since we entered the league. We didn't evolve as an organization. We came into the league in the early '90s and it seemed like we've been largely stuck in 1980s football philosophy mindsets. It's not a coincidence.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
OldhamA Grand Master

OldhamA

Posted
Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We might have the strongest 4-3 LB history in the league since we entered the league. It's because we've also probably spent by far the most resources at the position since we entered the league. We didn't evolve as an organization. We came into the league in the early '90s and it seemed like we've been largely stuck in 1980s football philosophy mindsets. It's not a coincidence.

The problem hasn't been spending first round picks on fantastic players like Morgan, Beason, Davis and Kuechly. 

The problem has been spending 2-7 round picks on trash that I don't have to list because we all know the names. 

We're a losing franchise because we've consistently drafted poorly, particularly after the first round pick. 

Edited by OldhamA
  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites
DaveThePanther2008 Grand Master

DaveThePanther2008

Posted
Posted

I get all the reasons why he waited so long but it was very apparent that Whitehead was a liability.  Rhule/Snow/Brady have to be better at pulling the plug on someone who isn't performing well.  

Our depth is much better this year so IMO there shouldn't be any excuses why they can make a decision much earlier.  I could care less if that player is making too much money to sit the bench.  The best 22 should be on the field regardless of veteran status. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
catnip Collaborator

catnip

Posted
Posted

If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass when he jumped .  It is easy to to look  back and be 100 % correct .  It was Hurney that brought in Teddy . It was Hurney who gave Shak the contract he has .  Fitts brought in Darnald because we did not have a starting QB .  Rhule is the coach and will coach the players given to him .  Why not wait and see how it plays out before second guessing everything .

  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Floppin Grand Master

Floppin

Posted
Posted

Oh man, training camp always brings out the new idiot members that are going to vie for the crown of most esteemed moron for the season. Always a treat. Every season it's a brand new bunch. Last year's crowd was pretty disappointing so I'm hoping this bunch is more entertaining. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
frankw Grand Master

frankw

Posted
Posted
22 minutes ago, catnip said:

It was Hurney that brought in Teddy . It was Hurney who gave Shak the contract he has .

He's gone it might be time to start looking for the next fall guy because odds are this "versatile" oline could be swiss cheese by the fall.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
Posted

At the beginning of Panthers Confidential, you see inside the Panther Draft Room when they're informed of the Lions picking (Penei Sewell).

Scott Fitterer says to Matt Rhule, "So what's gonna happen is Sewell's gonna go, we'll be staring at Horn, and then it's gonna be what's worth us moving off of Horn." 

Later, right around five minutes in, the film rewinds to the day before the draft and you see the meeting where Matt Rhule lists "the cluster of guys we really love" in order with Scott Fitterer, Samir Suleman and David Tepper. 

They are...

- Penei Sewell
- Jaycee Horn
- Patrick Surtain
- Jaylen Waddle
- Devonta Smith

And finally, a little after that comes the part where they actually draft Jaycee Horn, which would strongly suggest he was the guy they wanted (and in fact they say so afterward). 

So ya know,  there's that 😕

  • Pie 1
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
*FreeFua* Grand Master

*FreeFua*

Posted
Posted
9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

At the beginning of Panthers Confidential, you see inside the Panther Draft Room when they're informed of the Lions picking (Penei Sewell).

Scott Fitterer says to Matt Rhule, "So what's gonna happen is Sewell's gonna go, we'll be staring at Horn, and then it's gonna be what's worth us moving off of Horn." 

Later, right around five minutes in, the film rewinds to the day before the draft and you see the meeting where Matt Rhule lists "the cluster of guys we really love" in order with Scott Fitterer, Samir Suleman and David Tepper. 

They are...

- Penei Sewell
- Jaycee Horn
- Patrick Surtain
- Jaylen Waddle
- Devonta Smith

And finally, a little after that comes the part where they actually draft Jaycee Horn, which would strongly suggest he was the guy they wanted (and in fact they say so afterward). 

So ya know,  there's that 😕

2/5 you mentioned were in play at 8

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • DeSim
      From the ground up: How the Panthers are retooling Bryce Young's footwork to slow down time

      By DeSim · Posted

      Well, he either plays well or we suck again and get the #1 pick and get our new QB for next year.  Im not stressing. 
    • rayzor
      From the ground up: How the Panthers are retooling Bryce Young's footwork to slow down time

      By rayzor · Posted

      the way it should be. the way it has to be.  when you get a rookie (no matter where he is drafted), you don't expect him to play like a vet or even get a grasp on NFL offenses like a vet. if you intend to have him running the offense, you build the offense around what they do and what clicks.  not Young's fault, but he was sold as someone who would be a rookie but has the mind of a seasoned vet. guess what...he wasn't. reich and "his" crew had no idea how to work with a rookie QB or groom one. they thought they knew, but they didn't and it was obvious in the lack of plan they had for him. their plan was to treat him like he was a seasoned vet. even with that, i don't think they had any clear vision not just with Bryce, but with the offense. There was no cohesion between all the various coaches. nothing fit together and reich wasn't a strong enough leader to pull it all together.  i like the approach of starting over with the fundamentals and i think it's good for any new coaching staff or new QB to a system. you don't know what to expect so you start from the beginning to make sure you're on the same page from the beginning. and as you get more used to each other, you learn what works, what could really work well, and what won't work and you form the playbook around that. contrast that with chud who had been working on a playbook for years and just wanted to use it regardless of whether the situation called for it or the personnel he had (on the team or even on the field) fit what he wanted to call.   or last year when we had coaches from completely different backgrounds trying to put something together that was supposed to be a blend of what each brought to the table, but just ended up being a sloppy predictable mess that didn't fit anyone on the team, QB, WRs, and OL.
    • Johnstonny
      Least excitment before any season?

      By Johnstonny · Posted

      I've always been super pumped up for the upcoming season but I've never been so uninterested in a new season. After six years under Dipper I've been left at end of season drunken and wallowing in my own piss... not invested in the team right now but hope Canales and Morgan make a good team together...
×
×
  • Create New...