Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Would this get you excited for this season?


Zod
 Share

Recommended Posts

18 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

He’s played the last two years with two teams he signed with late and one in the middle of the season. Yet he still managed to be the only one out there scoring TDs. No QB and I mean not a single one is going to be successful when they barely know the plays. In NE he scored more total TDs than Brady did in his last season there. It’s more than just about the QB. 
 

 

Jesus Christ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

He’s played the last two years with two teams he signed with late and one in the middle of the season. Yet he still managed to be the only one out there scoring TDs. No QB and I mean not a single one is going to be successful when they barely know the plays. In NE he scored more total TDs than Brady did in his last season there. It’s more than just about the QB. 
 

 

Cam dragged a WR core of Philly Brown, Rookie Devin Funchess, Ted Ginn and Jericho Cotchery (who caught it) to the super bowl with Mike Remmers as his starting RT.

His MVP year was 2015. By the start of next season, that will be 7 years(!) since he was a top QB in the league. 

Rivera ran him into the ground and he is a shell of the QB he once was. He is past his peak. It sucks, but it's true. He has not come close to playing at that same level consistently ever since. There are games of good play sprinkled in here and there, but the vast majority of his play these days has been sub-par. 

Yes he came in late last season and tried to learn the offense on the fly. He was still missing receivers and making bad throws even when he did have time, which I will admit wasn't often. 

People have a death grip on the good old days trying to choke them back into existence. It's not going to happen. Even if Cam does play better than he has for the past 5 years, we still have Matt Rhule as our HC. Any good that the resurrection of prime Cam would provide would be immediately neutered by Rhule's incompetence. 

If Cam has a chance to be better (That's a big IF for me), then I don't want him to do it here with us. He doesn't deserve that. Let him go somewhere with competent coaching and a chance to get a ring. He still has value as a former MVP with experience that could help a younger QB succeed and potentially provide relief in the event of injury. Have him go to Buffalo, Seattle, Green Bay, KC, Philly, SF, or LA and back up the starter. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, Zod said:

Cam signs a one year deal to mentor Malik Willis who sits early and starts to spell Cam as the season goes on.

 

The offensive line gets improved through starting Brown and Brady plus a key free agent.

 

Excited?

 

Been saying THIS for a minute, Cam was always the PERFECT bridge QB and was cheaper than TB the year he was released. Allows the team to compete at a high-level while not FORCING the issue with a rookie.

People forget Tannehill earned an extension before Gase, he was ALREADY consider good in MIA. Darnold has / had NOTHING but bad tape with some highlights sprinkled in. 

The fact these morons traded 3 picks for a guy likely to be released as he was in his 4th year, and no future guarantees on a team that was taking a QB #2 continues to remind me this FO / Staff didn't have a clue wtf they were doing. 

I am concerned that they STILL don't know wtf they are doing, and are reluctant to make ''common sense'' decisions. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, Zod said:

Cam signs a one year deal to mentor Malik Willis who sits early and starts to spell Cam as the season goes on.

The offensive line gets improved through starting Brown and Brady plus a key free agent.

Excited?

Let me put it this way...

If your primary goal is to generate some short-term excitement, you're not particularly concerned about building for the future and you want to potentially give David Tepper a reason to keep Matt Rhule around for a little longer, then yes this is a great idea.

Otherwise, not so much.

  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nope. Willis will not be a star in the NFL, IMHO. His passing was average at best in college and he will not be able to scramble in the NFL. And when he does, he will begin to get battered like Jackson, and well ... like Cam. I don't get why everyone is so into guys like Cam, Jackson, and Hurts. Give me a guy like Mahomes ... who CAN scramble if needed but is more about passing ... you know, what a QB is supposed to do. BTW ... this is all if you're talking pick #6. Want to gamble on the kid with your 4th? Ok. But he won't last that long. He'll go at the end of the 1st.

  • Pie 1
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, Zod said:

Cam signs a one year deal to mentor Malik Willis who sits early and starts to spell Cam as the season goes on.

 

The offensive line gets improved through starting Brown and Brady plus a key free agent.

 

Excited?

 

Nope. The architects of the mess that is the Carolina Panthers, Tepper and Rhule, will still be in charge. Plus Brown and Brady are probably not true starting caliber NFL players. Brady may end up a good backup though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

53 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

He’s played the last two years with two teams he signed with late and one in the middle of the season. Yet he still managed to be the only one out there scoring TDs. No QB and I mean not a single one is going to be successful when they barely know the plays. In NE he scored more total TDs than Brady did in his last season there. It’s more than just about the QB. 
 

 

I know you're a huge Cam homer, but at least do a little research and tell the truth. Newton did not have more TDs in NE in 2020 than Brady did in 2019, which was his last season there.

Newton threw for 8 TDs and rushed for 12 more which adds up to 20.

Brady threw for 24 TDs and rushed for 3 more which adds up to 27.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Nope. Willis will not be a star in the NFL, IMHO. His passing was average at best in college and he will not be able to scramble in the NFL. And when he does, he will begin to get battered like Jackson, and well ... like Cam. I don't get why everyone is so into guys like Cam, Jackson, and Hurts. Give me a guy like Mahomes ... who CAN scramble if needed but is more about passing ... you know, what a QB is supposed to do. BTW ... this is all if you're talking pick #6. Want to gamble on the kid with your 4th? Ok. But he won't last that long. He'll go at the end of the 1st.

Some said the same thing about Mahomes and Murray.  The guy has talent and what he needs is a QB in front of him so he can learn.  

If we could trade down get him and an offensive linemen and let him play behind Cam.  He'll learn.

Cam may be done but he's still better than any QB on our roster and better than most of those that are free agents. 

I'd rather ride with Cam than Darnold and draft a rookie than to throw more money at the QB position in a Veteran that has as many question marks as they do answers. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don’t think so 

I’m trying to decide on paying the season ticket invoice when it comes in a week or two  or just turning them back in after 22 years.

to be very truthful, I don’t think there is anything with Matt Rhule’s name attached to it that would make me want to pay that invoice 

Cam has no desire to come back here.  All a person has to do is watch his exit interview 

I imagine  going from Rivera and Bellinchek to Rhule was quite a shock.  Besides Cam is a shell of himself.  It would take quite a bit of money for Cam to rejoin the Rhule poo show    Truthfully, I wish Cam would retire for his health. Taken far too many hits 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No. Willis is a massive project, exciting to some degree but odds are he won't work out at all. Not too interested in seeing Cam as starter either, much better than Darnold trash but would rather go for a big dog or just flat out tank.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • In my view, the realistic expectation for this team to compete will start 2027.  At that time, I think we could be looking at the following (this is HIGHLY speculative):   QB:  You know, Bryce.  I am not a fan, but they don't ask me.  But there is reason for hope--and here it is.  Bryce will be entering his prime.  Since we are likely to pay him, there will be changes that I include throughout this exercise--I realistically speculate on what they are going to do with Bryce and then I realistically speculate on what means in terms of the cap and other positions. Bryce HAS IMPROVED.  The idea is that if you give him more weapons and protection, that will continue.  His career:   At this rate, if his growth continues, by 2027 we should expect nearly 30 TDs and about 12 Interceptions and a Rating of about 98.  His completion percentage should settle at 65-66% or so.  If that happens, you can win with it. The following stats demonstrate how the Panthers will be able to afford it (and re-sign Ickey) My guess is they will require about $60m per year. This is why rookies who can play are important.  It also helps us see the blueprint.  You may disagree, but this is the cruel realities of the salary cap. Robert Hunt:  Cut post June 1 and save $19m.  Who do you replace him with?  Ickey. Tershawn Wharton:  Cutting him saves nearly $15m.  We should all hope to see Aaron Hall (UDFA) make the roster and play well.  Regardless, this is a position we would likely have to address in the next draft. Trevin Moehrig:  Cutting Moehrig as the starting SS saves this team $16.5m.   Ransom will be on year 3 of a cheap rookie deal and should be more than ready to take the reins.  their styles are similar.  Furthermore, FS Wheatley (R, 4th round) will be starting. Taylor Moton:  So much depends on his knee, but I have an idea that he can play another 3 years.  extending him could save the team about $5m per year.  Cutting him outright would save the team about $21m. In the most drastic situation, we have to cut Moton and the other three players mentioned.   We would need (in all likelihood) a starting DT and RT.  It is possible that the DE would be addressed, but Wharton's production (so far) could be equaled by a rookie.  Look for a cut free agent and a 2027 draft pick here.  If you cut Moton, you save $21m, and that would be the only big hole to fill.  Having Ickey at RG gives you some depth at T, and Ickey could be the guy.  T could be pick in the 2027 draft (first round), fwiw.  It saves you $21m while costing you $5m, for example. We get younger, creating a core of Freeling, Hecht, and the RT first rounder in 2027) along with Ekownu (second contract in the $15m range, and Lewis, whose contract would be in the $16m range if not extended.)  The OL cuts (Hunt, Moton) would save $40m.  The OL would get younger and still solid with veterans at G.   By cutting Wharton (no brainer if his play stays the same) and Moehrig (good player--but we have Ransom on a rookie contract who would not be that much of a drop off--if any) in addition to Hunt and Moton, we would save over $70m in cap room. We would be able to give Bryce bag  and we would have enough to re-sign Ickey (if the knee is not too risky) to a Guard contract (probably at a discount, coming off that injury).  Furthermore, we could add a RT in the draft (or a RG if Ickey moves to RT) and that would be the only large hole to fill. Correct my logic if you see issues-- On defense, in addition to the aforementioned, Scott ($2m contract) is out, replaced by a 4th round rookie contract. CB Jackson's contract ($7.8m) expires and he is (possibly) replaced by a rookie contract.  At Edge, patrick Jones II's $10m contract expires and he is likely a reserve, and his role is absorbed by Phillips, Scourton, Princely, and possible an UDFA like Isaiah Smith or a 2027 draft pick.   These productive developmental players over the past 2 drafts will pay huge dividends.  On paper, I see the team getting much younger and possibly better while cutting nearly $100m and reallocating that money to get more production.          
    • If everything played out and that last thing happened, I probably just quit. 
×
×
  • Create New...