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Re: Last year's defense

Mr. Scot

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The defense has some good players but was never particularly good. The fact that the offense sucked giant ass probably had something to do with that.  Constant three and outs, stalled drives and turnovers after the first five minutes of the game. Not knowing how to make any adjustments is killer too. The talent on defense should be enough to make it at least league average.  Lack of any sort of awareness or ability to do anything other than stick to the game plan coming in really sinks both sides of the ball. We could have the most talented roster in the NFL and fhule and snow would get them to about 7 wins

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1 hour ago, KSpan said:

Carolina frequently had a strong first driven that resulted in some points. It was everything after that first drive that was Rhule-esque lack of strategy and inability to stay competitive.

That would actually be on the offensive coordinator.   Its not the head coaches job to make in game adjustments to the offense.  If anything he had more fingerprints on the scripted plays to open the game.   The ones that actually worked. 

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35 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Seems like a failure to make adjustments.

The league figured Snow out and he couldn't counter.

26 minutes ago, toldozer said:

The defense has some good players but was never particularly good.

Good players, especially since we concentrated our draft and free agency on defense the first two seasons.

That's all that kept us even mildly competitive.

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It’s not as easy as letting the defense off the hook because the offense sucked. 

In 2020, a lot of people made the assumption that if Teddy has just finished our last drive, we would have won 4-8 more games.  What they failed to consider is if Teddy finished that last drive with more than about :45 to go, there was a decent chance the defense was going to give it right back.

I’m not sure last year was any different, other than there were a lot less potential last drives to finish because the games were out of hand.  We didn’t create turnovers or enough negative plays. 

So, yeah, the offense often left the defense on the field to rot and put them in bad situations, but I’m not convinced things would have been much better had neither of those things been the rule.  It is an assumption I am not willing to make.

I think Snow is pretty good at getting an under-talented defense to perform over their abilities.  The problem is that I don’t think he knows what to do we a defense with reasonable talent in the NFL. 

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...they couldn't stick when it really mattered in the game... Think Wilks will be a good voice...at least when he called a blitz you could actually tell it was a blitz...ur azz better be in shape when you play for him.

 

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If burns and reddick finish their sacks on about 4-5 particular drives…. This is a non issue right now. Our defense definitely didn’t get the support from The offense last year but also had moments of looking like Swiss cheese.

 

Eisen said recently that some of the greatest defenses aren’t always tie to a game plan, Dc or even great positional players…. It’s tied to that one player that gets you the ball back when it matters the most.  Burns and Chinn need to be those guys this year 

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23 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

Any defense is going to start to cave if the offense is generating consecutive 3 and outs across 4 quarters.

Football 101

Obviously, our defense had room for improvement, but it was going to be hard to succeed being on the field all the time. When you keep putting the opposing offense on the field in the NFL, most will start scoring points. 

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45 minutes ago, poundaway said:

That's because our offense scored on the first possession and then took the afternoon off.

That is not a defensive stat.

Yeah- Our first set of scripted plays for the first drive seemed to mostly go well. Our offense just couldn't do anything later that required coaches to adjust and react accordingly in games. Add that to poor situational football pretty much and we really struggled.

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