Land For Sale

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

56 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Literally got called "the most down-bad franchise in pro sports" yesterday, my guy

Sounds like something a TikToker would say. Not that I don’t agree though 

[GRWatcher]

3 hours ago, rippadonn said:

Put that new stadium $$$ into engineering a "roof" on top of BofA. I was just there. The old girl still looks great.

Perhaps add two arches broadsides and have the clear panels run on tracks on the inside to open and close.

Architecturally that setup may even enhance the beauty of the old girl and provide a dome level of utility. Gorilla glass?! The possibilities.

That would be quite the project to watch go up.

 

 

I clearly remember that, when the stadium was first designed and built, it was said to be built in such a manner that later a dome could be added. I don't know if that's still feasible because of the years of renovations. 

[Purrnicious]

I don't see any reason at all for a new stadium, BoA is in great shape and had everything you need. But I am assuming that there's no way we go another 5 years without Tepper getting the itch for one. 

If they propose a dome I will go out and protest. We get such great football weather here, I am the most tan around Thanksgiving every year from the sun I get at home games. But even when the weather is bad, I still don't want a dome. I had a ton of fun Thursday in the rain, it changes the game, everyone was standing the whole time and it was exciting. Hell I know it's not probable but I have always wanted a snow game, can't happen in a dome.

I can think of at least two games where the weather gave us an edge vs the saints, they used to be infamous for their lackluster performances outside their dome, why wouldn't we want to keep this advantage against two of our division rivals?  

Football is a game played outside, in the elements, on grass. Period. Anything else is a cheap substitute. 

[1of10Charnatives]

3 hours ago, rippadonn said:

Go back to grass with a retractable roof to let the rain and sunshine in. 

Natural grass and a top at BofA as well as adding ANOTHER hotel or two/three on Morehead/practice facility could make Charlotte all of a sudden able to meet SB "criteria".

Ding Ding Ding.

He's found the true motivation behind the push for a new stadium. 

Tell him what he's won!

[NAS]

6 hours ago, Cdparr7 said:

Interested to see what they do at the 77/277 interchange. Likely enough room to build a stadium on one side with a bridge over the highway for parking access. 
 

Or they could just build the HQ/Practice Facility there and leave the stadium in the same place. 
 

Or they could build a soccer field/concert venue so we can get our fugging grass back!

Soccer stadium should be in East Charlotte, old Eastland mall location

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

lmfao I am glad I now live in a flyover state that will never get a pro team. imagine giving your tax dollars to build a new stadium everytime a billionaire gets bored of his current one

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

lmfao I am glad I now live in a flyover state that will never get a pro team. imagine giving your tax dollars to build a new stadium everytime a billionaire gets bored of his current one

But you still give your dollars to pedophiles...

[LinvilleGorge]

3 hours ago, saX man said:

30 years is the typical benchmark that's reducing and the diminishing shelf life has a lot to do with other factors including how crazy potential upgrade costs have become. See: Titans.  

In addition, many of the builds in the 80s-90s weren't part of strategic urban infill and larger development projects that you see today.  It unfortunately ends up costing taxpayers but it just is what's happening; that's the reality.  The plus--if these don't become cringe franchise-soaked districts, they could become pretty cool spots in their respective cities.

A factor with BoFa is that it's been consistently upgraded and between Richardson & Tepper, has had $250 mil in reno costs thrown at it.  It may be worth downscaling and keeping rather than demoing.  And that process would likely be a later phase of a larger development plan that you could probably map out from the foundry's SW extent to the Duke Energy building.  

 

None of this refutes the reality that we live in a society that views everything as disposable. Hell, it basically confirms it.

[OldhamA]

9 hours ago, Varking said:

What’s wrong with the current stadium?

I wasn't a massive fan of the cracks in the concrete on the concourse and the third tier shaking... but it's not bad.

Edited November 17, 2022 by OldhamA

[bababoey]

5 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

If they started work today from square one, it would probably take at least five years before the stadium opened.  The actual construction generally takes two or three years, and that is after site prep.  Then there is bribing the local officials and regulators, fighting off the environmental impact of wiping out the habitat of native rats and mosquitos, etc.

So, the real question is not whether BofA is fine now, but what will it be like in ten years or more?  That's about the window that needs to be considered.

FWIW, the Waltons are reportedly interested in replacing Empower (Mile High) Field already.  Not sure how serious they are, but owners wanting a new stadium is pretty much a rite of passage.

The Charlotte pipe land that is for sale, would not have a stadium on it in 5 years.  I was a contractor that went in and out of that place for 15 years and I can tell you that several feet of the topsoil of that land will have to be replaced before they can even being to build any new buildings on that site.  They melt scrap metal in the buildings and have contaminated a large section if all of the land in that area.  The clean up of that land and the teardown of all the buildings on it alone will take a couple of years. 

It's a great, really a perfect, location.  It's just Charlotte Pipe has been there for over 100 years melting scrap iron and there is a lot to do to if if you want to use it for anything else.

All you have to do is drive by the facility and look at all the vehicles in the parking lot and look at the black soot covering them.  Trust me I blew it out of my nose for days every time I went over there.

[KillerKat]

I mean the stadium is getting close to 30 now

[onmyown]

6 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

"at least we're not owned by David Tepper" is the new "at least we're not owned by Dan Snyder"

and soon at least we aren’t the Panthers will be the new at least we’re not the browns…

actually we may already be there

6 hours ago, amcoolio said:

No it isn't. Nobody thinks this outside of the malcontents on this website.

Wtf Tepper is that you?

[Mr. Scot]

7 hours ago, Growl said:

the team really doesn’t need a new stadium and they definitely don’t need a dome

but the panthers exist to help Dave tepper build a personal legacy for himself and you guys need to help accommodate that

if you stupid poor people would stop complaining about the price of food at the game and stop eating before you got there we wouldn’t have this problem

now shut up and give mr tepper $60 for parking and $20 for your hot dog and soda

that’ll be an extra $5 to pee too

Well, he did bring music to Charlotte

[ladypanther]

https://charlotte.axios.com/261266/david-tepper-no-way-in-hell-hed-build-a-domed-stadium-in-charlotte/

“There’s no way in hell … that I would build a domed stadium in Charlotte, especially after Covid. The weather is too beautiful and if anything it shows you it’s an advantage to have that kind of (open-air) building,” Tepper told reporters in Rock Hill, S.C. on Tuesday.

He did not, however, rule out a retractable roof, which are much costlier than domed roofs.
Tepper said he is “not building the stadium alone,” and that the community would have to be behind it. Presumably, funding could come from Tepper himself, season-ticket holders and the city, county and/or state.

Tepper has said the next stadium will be state-of-the-art, one that the team and community could use year round. Having some sort of roof allows for uses like hosting Final Fours and wintertime concerts.

 

Charlotte Pipe & Foundry site has often come up as a possible new location for a new stadium and entertainment district for Tepper Sports. It could still potentially be a new stadium site, Tepper joked, “if (Charlotte Pipe CEO) Roddey Dowd wants to get generous and donate the land to the city.”

Charlotte Pipe is not considering donating that land, spokesperson Brad Muller told Axios. He added that the company has nothing new to report regarding a possible sale or talks with Tepper Sports.
Tepper still wants to build some sort of entertainment district Uptown near the stadium and near Gateway Station, which’ll include an Amtrak train station. “Coming out of Covid this could be a really good thing to look forward to, and really make Charlotte one of the centers of this part of the South for entertainment.”

He added that he hopes apartment buildings don’t go up in the area where the district would be.