Wilks Set This Team Back

[Sgt Schultz]

Had we hung on to The Process to secure probably a #3-5 draft pick (I doubt we were outsucking the Texans or Bears, probably not the Broncos or Cardinals, either), we would be a friggin mess right now of epic proportions.  We honestly would probably be about to hire a Wilks/Rivera type coach just to stop the bleeding.

[glenwo2]

10 minutes ago, d-dave said:

Man, some of y'all are just laying all the blame at Steve Wilks feet like he spent the past three seasons setting this up.  Also, Steve didn't make the trade decisions.  Why would the INTERM coach do that?  How is Steve Wilks to blame for SF playing well and lowering the value of those picks?  How is Wilks responsible for Horn's injury?  I mean, the timing sucked, but so does the timing of all injuries in the NFL.  Save a lot of your vitriol for Scott Fitterer.

Perspective: when was the last time you cared about late season Panthers football?  2017?  It's been a good ride here.  I'd rather win than lose because a few draft slots are pretty meaningless.  Look, if we find THE GLORIOUS QB-SAVIOR, we can trade up for him.  Duh.  That's what teams do.

Given the drafting pedigree of this team, would you rather have Brian Burns or 2-4 players who will not be as good as he is now?  This year, the Rams suck so that traded draft pick is looking good.  What about in 24-25?  I think the Rams bounce back.  Look at what happened when they put Baker in there?  So at best I imagine those picks are middle first round, or later if they go back to the playoffs.

I don't know what's going on in David Tepper's brain.  I don't know who the next coach will be.  I like that Wilks brought organization, toughness, and heart to the team.  He was the anti-Rhule and it showed.  Sunday versus the Saints will be what it will be.  I know the team will try to win, and I'm fine with that.

Some of y'all live in a Madden/Fantasy Football world.  

And that's what we needed :  an Anti-Rhule type of coach.   Hopefully the next Head Coach is even better.  

And interestingly enough, if Rhule wasn't fired and the team finished the way some of the "draft gurus" here wanted, that would be the end of Sam as an NFL player, let alone QB in the league 'cause he wouldn't have gotten the chance Wilks and MacAdoo gave him that put him in the position to salvage his career as it turned out.  

 

Edited January 2, 2023 by glenwo2

[Panthercougar68]

Wilks worked with what he had and made this team fun again. The one who set us back was the dude fired in October. 

Wilks stopped the bleeding and allowed players to actually play and gain experience.

[CRA]

Front office did everything in their power to tank as much as was possible by trading CMC after Rhule’s firing. 

Wilks simply highlights how horrific Matt Rhule was a NFL HC.   Coaches and actual players aren’t going to tank and try to lose a game. 

[CBDellinger]

The idea that losing games to move up in the draft is the only way to win later is such a brain dead line of thinking. 
 

the best qb in the game was drafted  10th overall by a team that went 12-4 the previous year and traded up to get him.  

Always win. 

Edited January 2, 2023 by CBDellinger

[TheWiz]

No. David Tepper set this team back doing all the wrong things at the wrong time. Wrong coach. Kept him on too long. Fired him too early in the season.

I can't blame Steve Wilks for making the most of what was given to him and getting more out of our talent than the previous guy. He lost players and coaches all season... and got guys to perform and made US keep watching. It's amazing how well a group of guys can do under different leadership. 

 

[panthers55]

Winning against the Saints won't change our draft position much. Our strength of schedule is lower than any 7 win team so we pick before they do. We get a top 10 pick which will be 9th and we got to play meaningful games in December and January. Wilkes has done more for this franchise in 12 games than Rhule did since he got here. Anyone who see this as a setback has an agenda not based on facts.

[poundaway]

Meh. 

Vegas had us at 6.5 wins before the season, and that is where we are.  If Wilks beats a saints team that Rhule already beat, then we are .5 game over.  If we lose, we're .5 game under.   The Giants were better than anyone predicted and the Bucs were worse. 

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, Smithers said:

 

Then…he blames everyone else in the pressers, especially the one player (Sam) who kept us in the game.  

I don't watch coach press conferences, but did he really throw players under the bus?!

[NorthTryon]

2 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I don't watch coach press conferences, but did he really throw players under the bus?!

No. He said the turnovers hurt, hard to win with turnovers type stuff every coach says with no names at all.

[glenwo2]

6 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I don't watch coach press conferences, but did he really throw players under the bus?!

He didn't name names but the implication was there (pay no mind to the peanut gallery telling you otherwise). 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

This team has made all the wrong moves its kind of stunning. A masterclass in keeping your franchise mediocre.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Sean Payton's Vicodin

[Jon Snow]

This place has gone mental.

[WOW!!]

This fan base has a abundance of dumbass..