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If Wilks had made adjustments in the Bucs game

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TLGPanthersFan Grand Master

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58 minutes ago, YourLastThought said:

For everyone that says we must have an offensive minded coach how do you feel about Sean McDermont and the success he has had? Should the Bills fire him for one of the offensive guru guys?

Guys has a franchise QB and he has proven he is great at building his team. 
Also he has learned. When he first started with the Bills he was Rivera-like conservative, but over time he learned he has to be aggressive in this league and it worked out. 

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1 hour ago, YourLastThought said:

For everyone that says we must have an offensive minded coach how do you feel about Sean McDermont and the success he has had? Should the Bills fire him for one of the offensive guru guys?

McD has shown he will adapt and that's what has made him successful. Ron, Fox, even Rhule were all so ridiculously stubborn that the idea of changing anything must have sent them into a tirade. The one defensive guy I think could buck that trend right now is Ryans. He's young and really in tune with the creative aspect of the game, in part I imagine because of who is on the other side of the ball. I just don't see Steve in that same category. 27 years and still no back to back winning seasons. It's time to do something different. 

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I think it's unfair to put what happened in that game entirely on him.  He isn't dealing with a staff he hired, he was coaches down on defense.  He lost CMC.  The team overachieved really down the stretch.  As with all NFL teams, their were injuries.  Out of desperation he signed JNO, but it was too little to late.  I think Steve may get a raw deal even if it isn't intentional.  I thought he did an exceptional job and there is no doubt he loves the Panthers.

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4 hours ago, TheMaulClaw said:

I think it's unfair to put what happened in that game entirely on him.  He isn't dealing with a staff he hired, he was coaches down on defense.  He lost CMC.  The team overachieved really down the stretch.  As with all NFL teams, their were injuries.  Out of desperation he signed JNO, but it was too little to late.  I think Steve may get a raw deal even if it isn't intentional.  I thought he did an exceptional job and there is no doubt he loves the Panthers.

He was coaches down on defence because he fired the v. good DC we had to put his best mate in place. 

The defence regressed week on week.

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4 hours ago, OldhamA said:

He was coaches down on defence because he fired the v. good DC we had to put his best mate in place. 

The defence regressed week on week.

I don't think Phil Snow was fired.  Do you think Phil Snow would have stayed without Rhule?  I don't think so.

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23 hours ago, Jmac said:

If Wilks had done anything to stop the three TD's to Evans and won that game,would he have been the front runner for the job?

Would you have agreed to keep him if they won the division and made the playoffs?

Did that Bucs came essentially seal his fate?...

 

Yes it sealed his fate.  Again, I love Wilks as a man and a leader from everything I know of him, but there was far too many examples in that one game of the inherent problems that were to come had he been hired as the permanent HC.  It was a painful lesson at the time, but it was better to be reminded of it now than for the next 2 or 3 years.

It sucks for him because I personally do believe he is one of the 32 best men for the job as a HC in the NFL.  But defensive-minded HCs are becoming a thing of the past.  The only ones that stand a chance to evolve with the league are the ones that are super assertive, proactive, and aggressive.  The only ones that fit that profile to me currently are Tomlin and Belichick a d even they are struggling without HOF QBs now.  Offense is the present and the future.  Period.

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If I remember correctly Brees had a bunch of middling seasons until they got a defense. Peyton Manning won his Super bowls when the defense stepped up as well as the offense. The year he had so many TDs they didn't win it because the defense was poor. You can get to the playoffs with great defense or offense but to win the Superbowl you need all three phases to be playing at a high level. Folks here like the balls to the wall style play instead of more conservative play which can come from offensive or defensive guys. It just so happens most of our defensive coaches like Wilkes are conservative so offensive guys look appealing. But let's be real the OC who interviews needs to have a strong choice for DC and if he is smart a guy with head coaching experience.

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