Was Frank our worst head coach?

[TheBigKat]

Frank was TOAST when he came here as a coach, he needed to take a year or two off before throwing his hat into the coaching ring. I get it, money grab, don't blame him, he and his kids are set for life. He's a nice man, revered in Buffalo but hands down the worst X's and O's coach in Panther history

[Carl Spackler]

The next coach could (read: will) go 0-17 and I'd still say he's better than Matt Rhule.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Worst results? Sure

Worst Coach/person it’s Rhule by a mile.

My take also

[Brooklyn 3.0]

No.

[AggieLean]

Yes. 

[Jackie Lee]

We aren't magically going to go .500 the rest of the season like last year just by firing Reich. Also if they had been playing Dalton we'd probably have at least a few more wins. Reich sucked sure but the trades/FA, and drafts picks would handicap any coach

[CPantherKing]

3 hours ago, hepcat said:

Seifert had an eye for talent, gotta give him that. 2001 draft was fire and key to the 2003 Super Bowl run 

Seifert leaned on Hurney/Beane for that draft

[CamWhoaaCam]

Yes he was the worst HC in Panthers history!

 

His only win his entire time here was in a game in which he wasn't calling the plays. Dude was coaching like it was 1962.

[frankw]

4 hours ago, hepcat said:

The results on the field say yes. As a person, no it was definitely Rhule

Correct answer.

[carpanfan96]

46 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

Seifert leaned on Hurney/Beane for that draft

2001 was completely ran by Jack Bushofsky and Hurney. even if no one wants to give Hurney any credit. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by carpanfan96

[Navy_football]

3 hours ago, Captroop said:

I have a hard time calling the unfortunate guy who happened to rudder the worst team we've ever assembled our worst coach. To me, the worst coach is someone who squandered a talented roster or missed a window of opportunity. This team, this year had no chance of being successful, and failing to live up to even the low standards we should have expected is still hardly the most egregious crime. Frank will be out least memorable coach, but on the grading scale, I'm forced to give him an "I" for Incomplete.

100%

I don't think I'll ever forgive Ron for what he did to Cam. And the talent he had on defense was friggin criminal - mainly because that's where he invested all the resources. 

The fact that this team keeps getting QBs without being able to protect them is... weird. Just NFL average is what I'd like from an oline. Not Philly or Dallas. Just average.

[Gapanthersfan]

All of the coaches, besides 1, actually cared about winning. Frank as good as he was portrayed actually wanted the panthers to lose, otherwise they would never fire him. It was his hope the moment after Bryce got drafted. Playing your ass off for a coach that wants to lose so he can be fired is F’ed up. 
 

Fox, Rivera (with Gettleman), Wilks then everyone…. And then Frank. 

[Shotgun]

5 hours ago, BY9Franchise said:

Even with the 1-10 record and all I still think Rhule was worse 

I agree, Rhule had better QBs in my opinion.

[CRA]

5 hours ago, Navy_football said:

100%

I don't think I'll ever forgive Ron for what he did to Cam. And the talent he had on defense was friggin criminal - mainly because that's where he invested all the resources. 

The fact that this team keeps getting QBs without being able to protect them is... weird. Just NFL average is what I'd like from an oline. Not Philly or Dallas. Just average.

Cam is this weird double edged sword IMO when it comes to Ron.  Ron allowed for Cam to be special.  Cam wasn’t going to pair well with tons of coaches.  It would have been a Frank/Bryce scenario.

People claim Ron ran him into the ground.  None of his injuries that killed his career were tied to that though.  Cam went to NE and was basically a dominant running back after his time here.  Cam could still run on the league today.  Cam was made to be a bruiser and wanted to be.  His arm isn’t shot because of that.