Burns 55th in league with 17 pressures

[CRA]

25 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Burns has played very poorly the past two games, not to mention the ejection.  He got worked by Wirfs and was a non-impact starter.  

Bigger picture, he still holds a lot of value by simply being a versatile pass-rusher.  But he's not providing enough for us and what we need for a guy warranted that high of share of the DL allocation.  He's a pass rusher, poor run defender...so his pass rushing better be dominant, yet here it sits, in the NFCS, at 6 sacks (36th/t) 

I also think it's now clear that he doesn't want to play here.  He didn't get traded, so then he was waiting to see the market work itself out.  It reset a bit, he realized he can possible get $30 mil.  Meanwhile, he got to see how good the team was this year, which as we all know imploded before even taking off.  

You can just see it. He doesn't want to be here and he wants the dinero.  

It would make sense if we did what Tepp/Fitt/Reich expected us to do this year (compete).  But now, we've honestly got more to build than last season which is hard to fathom.  So he's waiting, it will likely be a tag & trade.  The crappy thing is that he still has leverage at this point as bad as he's been.  That's again, another thing on Fitterer.

See, I don’t even view him as a versatile pass rusher.  The more I watch dudes like Crosby and the likes….the more one dimensional Burns looks in his pass rushing.  Got guys like Trent Williams talking about the deep bag of tricks guys like Crosby have…Burns seems overly dependent on that outside speed rush.   And without pressure up the middle Burns becomes invisible as a result. 

[uncfan888]

2 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Im sick n tired of you Burns haters shitting on this dude every week. My goodness grow up!

 

I hope we give this dude 30mil a year just to piss off half the fanbase.

 

#InBurnsWeTrust

Nah.. Id love for him to have 15 sacks so I'd agree with you, but he doesn't.. So clearly fitterer made the wrong choice. He's made nothing but the wrong choices 

Edited December 5, 2023 by uncfan888

[Gapanthersfan]

There’s not an OC in the league that stays awake at night thinking about Burns. He is a good player (when he wants to be), but he thinks he’s a DUDE and wants to get payed accordingly. 

Dudes don’t need help to make plays. Miles Garrett, TJ Watt, Mack, Peppers, etc. Those are DUDES. With the way Brown has been destroying guys, Garrett on this defense right now would have 12 sacks, minimum. Reddick? 

I just want to know who is advising him to play give up ball in a contract year? If he plays the whole season the way he started the Atlanta game, he would be leading the league in sacks, tfl, and forced fumbles…. And naming his price. Instead, it’s a really bad look. Either sit out, or play your ass off. It’s like he wanted to sit out, but didn’t want to be fined for doing so. 

[The Lobo]

Just hope we do a tag and trade and someone trades for him

[Ricky Spanish]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

have at it

 

some fuging doozies in there

Turns out a competent DC like Evero can do wonders with the JAGs we have opposite Burns.

I had no idea we'd trade away the only receiver we had who was worth a damn in order to get a QB. Those 2 first round picks would have negated that price tag and really helped us out. Hindsight being 50/50 (Miss you Cam) we should have been all over that trade.

[Gapanthersfan]

Just imagine we keep Wilks, DJ, Foreman and ride 1 more year with Darnold… and take that trade for Burns. 

We would be leading the NFC south comfortably and trying to figure out how to use all of those first round picks we would still have… and our #1 receiver.. good times. 

[toldozer]

Pay that man. Got crucified before the season saying he was above average rushing the passer and below average against the run. Now he isn't even getting pressure. He can be gone for a 3rd round comp pick at this point. It is what it is

[Martin]

I was hoping he was going to take off in our 3-4, but I was so very wrong. He’s a good player, but far from elite.

[OneBadCat]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

See, I don’t even view him as a versatile pass rusher.  The more I watch dudes like Crosby and the likes….the more one dimensional Burns looks in his pass rushing.  Got guys like Trent Williams talking about the deep bag of tricks guys like Crosby have…Burns seems overly dependent on that outside speed rush.   And without pressure up the middle Burns becomes invisible as a result. 

He looks undersized even at his frame. He’s too built for finesse and not enough in the legs to power through people. Almost like he’s a basketball player just trying to spin around dudes.

[Bear Hands]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

See, I don’t even view him as a versatile pass rusher.  The more I watch dudes like Crosby and the likes….the more one dimensional Burns looks in his pass rushing.  Got guys like Trent Williams talking about the deep bag of tricks guys like Crosby have…Burns seems overly dependent on that outside speed rush.   And without pressure up the middle Burns becomes invisible as a result. 

True. His move set isn’t that crafty. He does have an inside spin and swim but they’ve been getting stopped by the average tackles. He just hasn’t been able to go from this solid rusher with star potential to that star level. Fools gold.

There are a lot of edge rushers I would take over him in this league.

[jfra78]

Maybe hes better with his hands in the dirt...

[Newbie]

4 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Im sick n tired of you Burns haters shitting on this dude every week. My goodness grow up!

 

I hope we give this dude 30mil a year just to piss off half the fanbase.

 

#InBurnsWeTrust

Our fan base is already pissed off dude. 

[ClawOn]

Need a new GM to take a 2nd and move on.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

I think it's funny how Whoaa refuses to grasp that we can patch together draft picks and FAs that can give us the same amount of sacks/TFL that Burns gives us but for much, much less. He wants to tie up our salary cap for a player who just isn't tops in the league at his position.