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I was definitely a Bryce doubter. Was cautiously hopeful before last season, quickly saw enough to lose that hope. Games 1 and 2 this year just confirmed it, and I doubted he would ever become even a decent backup.
 

I wouldn’t say I’m “all aboard the Bryce train,” but I’ve definitely seen enough over the last three games to give him the benefit of the doubt and not be hoping we replace him. The two games before that were ok but not particularly good, these last three games have been good.  He keeps it up for the rest of this season and I’ll be all aboard. What I am ready to admit is that I was definitely wrong to complete write him off, he’s shown stuff in these past three games that he never showed even a remote glimpse of the first 18 games. Huge improvement. 

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12 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I was definitely a Bryce doubter. Was cautiously hopeful before last season, quickly saw enough to lose that hope. Games 1 and 2 this year just confirmed it, and I doubted he would ever become even a decent backup.
 

I wouldn’t say I’m “all aboard the Bryce train,” but I’ve definitely seen enough over the last three games to give him the benefit of the doubt and not be hoping we replace him. The two games before that were ok but not particularly good, these last three games have been good.  He keeps it up for the rest of this season and I’ll be all aboard. What I am ready to admit is that I was definitely wrong to complete write him off, he’s shown stuff in these past three games that he never showed even a remote glimpse of the first 18 games. Huge improvement. 

Solid offensive line play is the main reason for his resurgence.   I'm still in the wait and see camp.  I'm pretty sure I know how this plays out long term.  People are captured in the moment and not thinking long term.  Remember, Bryce is still on his rookie contract and we can divert resources elsewhere, for NOW...like the OL. I could be wrong be wrong , but I have a felling we Daniel Jones this thing before it's all said and done.

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On 12/8/2024 at 5:48 PM, ForJimmy said:

Agreed. Even this past game look at Hurts stats paired with his supporting cast and the defense he played against.  Do the same with Bryce and it’s pretty impressive.  Hopefully he continues to get better. 

Underrated point. Hurts had an MVP favorite in the backfield. All-Pro as his #1 and a 1b as his #2 along with a top offensive line and imo Bryce played better. That’s of course not to say Young>Hurts, that’s nonsense at this point. I’m simply saying that’s important to keep in mind that he’s doing what he’s doing with a below average supporting cast. 
 

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I was believing that he was a bust but his performance against TB, KC and Philly has put me on his bandwagon. 

I just hope Morgan realizes that our offensive line has to be as good as this one is. Young will never be able to carry a team like Cam had to with a mediocre line. As players retire and move through free agency Morgan has to continue to give Young a great offensive line.  IMO this will determine whether he'll be a franchise QB. 

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7 hours ago, emhoward said:

Underrated point. Hurts had an MVP favorite in the backfield. All-Pro as his #1 and a 1b as his #2 along with a top offensive line and imo Bryce played better. That’s of course not to say Young>Hurts, that’s nonsense at this point. I’m simply saying that’s important to keep in mind that he’s doing what he’s doing with a below average supporting cast. 
 

And Hurts was playing against our defense vs Young playing against the Eagles defense. 

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5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

call up man coverage - 9's got you

call up zone coverage - 9's got you

call up a blitz - 9's got you

you think you've got 9? - 9's got you.

Dudes definitely frustrating elusive for opponents. Ya think you got him and he is gone and getting the ball downfield for 20 yards. Kinda like what Rodger would do in his prime. 

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On 12/12/2024 at 12:10 AM, Verge said:

After week two of this season, definitely. 

 

I begged you to be wrong about panthers drafting BY and the first 18(minus GB) games he played it was a fuging horror show. I didn't think he was simple capable of being a NFL QB 1-3, even doubted PS, cause I would have current FA PJ walker over him. 

Right meow, I feel its still undecided, but he at least playing like a legit NFL QB. Defenses are ahead currently in the NFL and cold/bad weather is here, ALLL QB play is down/bad *but BY is playing well. 

Invest is sunk and all, but Id be lying if I didn't still feel like trading him. My nightmare is that BY levels off and remains a 23rd rank type of QB. You know the type it just get you 6 or 7 wins while teasing you for the playoffs. 

I hope Panthers at least add one big time TE or WR to the group.  

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On 12/10/2024 at 7:39 AM, ForJimmy said:

And Hurts was playing against our defense vs Young playing against the Eagles defense. 

 

He was throw for throw against MVP/Superbowl MVP and KCs D, he had lead another game winning drive that will not go down in the stats as one. He's played like I never thought he could reach the last 3 weeks. Even going back 6, each of those week both QBs were struggling just that time of year(weather). He keeps getting better, which was my #1 goal of the season.

He's also not had Sanders, AT, Coker for a few games during this morphosis. Im always honestly, but the current group of panthers WRs and TEs are not enough. I never thought Id be saying this in his defense- " BY deserves more and better weapons ". They need to either spend a 1st/2nd or trade or drop the Higgins bag(I hate this) for him. Need a legit top pass catching weapon, get on it dan...

That point guard meme that everyone including me were laughing about......... he has looked that part in the last couple games. If he keeps up the play, he deserves some comeback player of the year votes. Hes putting the team in position to win. 

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On 12/9/2024 at 8:18 PM, JawnyBlaze said:

I was definitely a Bryce doubter. Was cautiously hopeful before last season, quickly saw enough to lose that hope. Games 1 and 2 this year just confirmed it, and I doubted he would ever become even a decent backup.
 

I wouldn’t say I’m “all aboard the Bryce train,” but I’ve definitely seen enough over the last three games to give him the benefit of the doubt and not be hoping we replace him. The two games before that were ok but not particularly good, these last three games have been good.  He keeps it up for the rest of this season and I’ll be all aboard. What I am ready to admit is that I was definitely wrong to complete write him off, he’s shown stuff in these past three games that he never showed even a remote glimpse of the first 18 games. Huge improvement. 


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Society as a whole has lost the ability to have nuance. I am a victim of this as well. 

Multiple things can be true about Bryce

1- the first two games of this year were an unmitigated disaster and he clearly was mentally in a very bad place

2- it is in the best interest of this organization for Bryce to be good, given the investment we have made in him

3- post benching Bryce is the best he has ever looked in the league

4- the jury is still out if he can truly be a franchise level QB, a good but not great starter, or not a viable longterm answer

5- his play post benching combined with the lack of top flight QB talent in this draft, warrants us continuing to evaluate him into next season 

 

I have said all along, I wanted to us to draft CJ, but the minute we drafted Bryce I have wanted Bryce to succeed here. I'm a Panthers fan first and foremost not a fan of my own predictions 

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