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Trade for a QB?


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3 minutes ago, Montsta said:

Considering Russell Wilson has pretty much OWNED the Panthers that would be interesting to see him. His record at BOA feels like he is 10-0 although I’m old and memory is foggy. 

I don't think he's an answer as a starter but he had almost 4k yards and 21 TDs... He can sling it around...

But turnovers are a problem for sure.

We aren't going to find a perfect backup at this point.

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1 minute ago, BlazeCarolina said:

The Giants have already said they value him highly and it would take a Godfather offer.  I don't think a 6th gets it done.

Yeah I mean that’s fine, they don’t have to trade him for what we offer. If they’d rather keep a third QB than a 6th round pick then go for it. It’s more so about next year anyway I don’t wanna throw whoever we draft directly into starting. 

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1 minute ago, Montsta said:

Considering Russell Wilson has pretty much OWNED the Panthers that would be interesting to see him. His record at BOA feels like he is 10-0 although I’m old and memory is foggy. 

It sure feels like it..... it honestly may be the best for both teams, so long the gaints don't ask for more than late swap or 2028 7th. 

I mean even offer the rare player for player trade, Crumedy for Wilson. Panthers have too many DL and need to trade one for the roster, they really have extra 2 DLmen so long Wharton are stay healthy.....

 

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6 minutes ago, Montsta said:

Considering Russell Wilson has pretty much OWNED the Panthers that would be interesting to see him. His record at BOA feels like he is 10-0 although I’m old and memory is foggy. 

He's 6-2 against us, 5-1 at the bank

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Panthers gonna be forced in season to address something that was obvious and needed before the first snap of the season.  
 

they mismanaged the roster because they knew any decent human backup QB would auto be competing with Bryce in reality even if he didn’t get a shot. Players would know 

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We should absolutely bring in another QB but not via trade. This team is much improved, but we still have holes that need to be filled in the draft and we shouldn't waste them on a year where we know we aren't a true contender. We need our picks to build our roster especially if Bryce is out long term and we decide to move on in the offseason and take another QB in the first. 

I'm sure there's a vet on a practice squad or on the street that can come in and hold a clipboard and can hand the ball off to Rico and Chuba should something happen to Dalton. Dalton even at his age can at least throw in rhythm and allow us to truly get a good look at what we have on offense. Despite Bryce playing serviceable the last 2 games, I still get the vide that we are having to adjust everything in our scheme to allow him to function. It would be interesting to see what Dave can do when he's not shackled with the physical limitations of Bryce at QB. 

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2 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

His x rays came back negative, he may not be out long 

Oooof......more Mighty Mouse. If that's the case you ride him thru 2025 season then move on. Seen enough.

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4 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

His x rays came back negative, he may not be out long 

Cams X-rays came back clean too when he suffered Lisfranc in 2019 if I remember right. So he's not out of the woods yet.

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