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Official Patriots at Panthers GameDay Thread


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With our incredible 2nd half adapting skills we're looking at a blowout now. I sure did have some hopes for this year after seeing our D perform so well early on, but now?  Laughable.  I'll be looking at what college offensive linemen we'll be able to get with our top ten round 1 draft pick...

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1 minute ago, onmyown said:


teams like Texans and even Rivera and Heineke think their situation is better as did the Seahawks and Jets and couple other teams.

i have an open mind, i won’t say it’s impossible, maybe, but if more being competitive means actually paying for a lower draft pick…i’d rather rather not

 it’s not just Darnold, the entire offense is the worst in the league in a a lot of categories

panthers aren’t about to break NFL records being so bad and going to the post season

it won’t make a difference that matters

7th most pocket time out of 32 starting qbs. It is absolutely Sam Darnold. He is sucking the life out of this team. Including what he does to the defense. 

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Idgaf what anyone says, Darnold needs to sit his ass down.  He isn't getting better, he's only getting worse each game and he is completely hamstringing the offense.  

You can talk all the poo in the world about PJ, but he does two things well that Darnold doesn't- create plays with his legs and throw the ball deep.  That's what we need. 

PJ needs to start the second half.  Period.  Because otherwise, they are just going to keep punting the ball back to them and our defense will get ran all to hell.

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    • Why do you say that. What leads you to think that we, as supporters, think his ceiling is 10-12. That's a ridiculous assumption on your part. The Seahawks won the SB with Darnold passing for 25 TD's, 14 Ints with a 99.1 rating for the season.  The Panthers with Young were at 23 TD's, 11 Ints and a 78.8 rating for the season. Not that far off. The problem with all the Young discourse around here is the assumption that the QB is the sole determining factor for a teams success. That just isn't true and it's certainly not how Morgan and Tilis are building the Panthers. 
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