Things are not well on Mint Street.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, App Panther said:

I've had a tough time letting go of taking Horn over Jones or Fields since draft night. I now have 0 doubt this was a terrible choice.

Fields would at least give us someone to build around and hope. Jones with this defense would be in playoff contention. 

Jones is terrible. He and his turnovers were the only thing that kept us in the game there for awhile.

[TheWiz]

You could just put a name in a hat on the coaching staff. pull it out and fire him. make it fun

[Mage]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Giving clowns like Matt Rhule talking points to continue this mistake.   Look guys, Sam moved the team down the field, we got TDs, and won.  Maybe there is something there.  

Matt Rhule criticized Sam Darnold about as much as you will ever see any HC criticize their starter.

Any chance of a long-term relationship between the sides is over if you read between the lines.  Darnold might start again but it is going to end up like the Bridgewater relationship.  Fractured.  

[Jackie Lee]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

this thought is exactly why you start PJ.  Then you start that 3rd string QB. 

last thing you need to say happen, is for Sam Darnold to throw a couple checkdowns to CMC vs Atlanta and CMC take them 60 yards and Sam finish a game with a junk stats sheet.  Giving clowns like Matt Rhule talking points to continue this mistake.   Look guys, Sam moved the team down the field, we got TDs, and won.  Maybe there is something there.  

You bench Sam to close the door on Sam Darnold.  It's not about PJ being the man.  Or the 3rd string QB.  It is about exposing the entire QB depth chart Matt Rhule put together shutting all the doors.  PJ's too. 

Rhule had the perfect scapegoat to play PJ and Morgan without having to bench Darnold this week. Just say his shoulder wasn't ready and no one would be bummed if the other guys didn't work out. Now he has to directly bench Darnold for poor play, showing his ineptitude as a coach and evaluator

[SCO96]

If anyone is the first to be showed the door I think it will be Joe Brady. I posted this link after the Dallas game and it contained a mind blowing  statistic

https://www.derp/2021/10/5/22710073/why-is-the-panthers-offense-under-joe-brady-so-bad-in-the-third-quarter

Panthers third quarter performance

Year	Week	Opponent	Panthers Pts	Opponent Pts
2020	14	Broncos	3	12
2020	15	Packers	7	0
2020	16	Football Team	0	3
2020	17	Saints	0	10
2021	1	Jets	0	8
2021	2	Saints	0	0
2021	3	Texans	7	0
2021	4	Cowboys	0	20
		Total	17	53

 

Here are the 3rd quarter point totals in the 5 games since:

Eagles (0),

Vikings (7)...and those came on a blocked punt

Giants (0)

Falcons(3)

Patriots (0)

20 pts in the 3rd quarter over our last 13 games...and going back to last season I might add...is not going to cut it in today's NFL. That's almost an entire season's worth of games. There is something seriously wrong with how we come out offensively after halftime.  And, since Sam wasn't here last season, it can't be blamed entirely on him.

[Waldo]

The only one in the house I care about anymore is Snow. The rest can burn.

[unicar15]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Jones is terrible. He and his turnovers were the only thing that kept us in the game there for awhile.

When Horn comes back from injury and is the best corner in the game and Jones/Fields are mediocre (maybe just flat out bad) these  “Horn was a bad decision” takes will be funny to look back on. 

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, unicar15 said:

He’s letting the football guys run the team and right now they’re sucking. 

What is the name of the guy in charge of hiring “the football guys”?

[Dunn]

It has to be Brady, there is one side of the football that is holding up its end very well, to a side that can't score a TD.  Rhule is to blame for it too, but Brady is supposed to answer the call and field a competent offense and hasn't done that for 6 weeks now, and it suffered most of last year also.  Its time for that change at least. 

[Jon Snow]

Benching Sam is about all they can do to change things up.  But it will not change the fate of this season. Blood will need to be sacrificed at the end of the season. 

[unicar15]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So... the decision makers and coaches are the problem but Tepper who brought them all in isn't? Okay.

Focus on what can change. Can’t change the owner. Also….gonna say the smartest guy in the room who makes calculated decisions for a living isn’t the issue. There is a difference in making the right decision and everything going wrong around it and making the wrong decision. 
 

I don’t believe hiring Rhule and Fitt were the wrong decisions. The evidence for that:

1. The defense is still really good. They need an O to stay on the field. 
 

2. ST is improving 

3. Gilmore was a good trade 

4. Horn was the right pick or at the very least one of the two right picks if you want to split hairs with Slater. Horn is a pro bowler as a rookie if he doesn’t get injured. 
 

5. Our entire 2020 draft was basically a Rhule draft. Lot of key contributors in that class 

 

The problem is the combo of Brady and Darnold and as far as I can tell Tepper has been the most outspoken voice in favor of trading for a legit veteran QB and not stockpiling draft picks and worrying about cap. He’s watching LA and seeing that in order to win you make moves. If there is anything that he’s pissed about it’s probably that his decision makers haven’t been aggressive enough. 

[Pantherxtreme]

Serves them right, they had 2 playoff caliber quarterbacks in the building and gave them the walking papers, both Cam and Teddy have led teams to the playoffs, what has Darnold ever done?

Gave those better players away for nothing and traded away picks to bring Pickles 2.0 here. 

If Tepper has been hands off, he needs to hands on now, clearly the rebuild is going off the tracks. 



 

[45catfan]

27 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Hostile work environment?

How do you figure?

That was one of the reasons he was forced...oops, I mean willingly sold the team.  That, jeans Friday and making a supposed remark about a black scout's nose.

Edited November 8, 2021 by 45catfan

[davos]

Promote Sean Ryan, get rid of Sam & Joe.  See what he can do with scrubs.