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19 minutes ago, Zod said:

Records for college coaches hired directly to NFL for 1st two seasons

Jim Harbaugh 24-7-1
Chip Kelly 20-12
Bill O'Brien 18-14
Butch Davis 16-16
Nick Saban 15-17
Doug Marrone 15-17
Kliff Kingsbury 13-18-1
Steve Spurrier 12-20
Greg Schiano 11-21
Matt Rhule 10-21
Bobby Petrino 3-10 

 

From 4manrush

FWIW Jimmy Johnson came straight from college and went 8-24 in his first 2 seasons before winning a couple SBs... Granted, he also improved by 6 wins year 1 to year 2, Rhule has declined from year 1 to year 2.

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It’s not even about the record for me. We look worse this year than last with any easier schedule this year. I normally agree about giving coaches 3 years as long as you’re seeing something after 2 even if the record doesn’t show that. We flat out suck and look lifeless. He needs to go now.

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Here are the records of the under .500 coaches beyond their second season:

Butch Davis 16-16  4 Seasons (24-35) 
Nick Saban 15-17  2 seasons (returned to college)
Doug Marrone 15-17  7 seasons (38-60)
Kliff Kingsbury 13-18-1 3 seasons (23-23-1)
Steve Spurrier 12-20  2 seasons (returned to college)
Greg Schiano 11-21  2 seasons (returned to college)
Matt Rhule 10-21  2 seasons (?)
Bobby Petrino 3-10 less than 1 season

This suggests the odds are stacked against Matt Rhule being a success in the NFL.

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44 minutes ago, PandaMan said:

Yikes, it’s even worse than I thought.  We aren’t winning another game this year so he’s actually worse than Schiano, and with more talent.  Very impressive.  

And remember how well Buc's fans took to their great "Former College Coach"

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56 minutes ago, Zod said:

Records for college coaches hired directly to NFL for 1st two seasons

Jim Harbaugh 24-7-1
Chip Kelly 20-12
Bill O'Brien 18-14
Butch Davis 16-16
Nick Saban 15-17
Doug Marrone 15-17
Kliff Kingsbury 13-18-1
Steve Spurrier 12-20
Greg Schiano 11-21
Matt Rhule 10-21
Bobby Petrino 3-10 

 

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I know it...you know it....we alll know it! Tep dont know it... if he followed what he preached....Analytics... one of which is college coaches have extremely low success rates...we wouldn't be in this position... so, hes full of sht.....

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