Who’s ready to hand Burns four-year, $112.01 million contract or higher contract

[Tbe]

Everyone loves draft picks until those picks turn into players.

[stratocatter]

They are just playing hardball, turning down that Rams offer. Teams are gonna know you can’t lowball Fitterer and the Tep. 

[CPantherKing]

Keeping Burns for that contract will hold the Panthers back as an organization.

[carpanfan96]

More like 5 years 100 million, 45m guaranteed. 2 year out just like Fitts more recent deals. 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Imagine having multiple early day picks where we could get not only one DE to replace Burns but another DT/DE as well. Both on rookie contracts. That is how you build a super bowl winning team and ensures you aren't over paying for talent for a 5-6 win team. Think about it. Burns just had 12.5 sacks and we still miss the playoffs and barely churned out 7 wins. Our run defense AND pass rush is still a problem.

Now we are about to commit a large % of cap space to a guy where it doesn't matter if he has a good or bad year stats wise. His IMPACT on each game is what matters and Burns impact on a play to play basis is so God awfully low compared to other top DEs in the game. 

Burns is NOT someone you build your defense around. He's a luxury addition for a team on the cusp. That is not the Carolina Panthers. Signing him to a multi year extension at the $$ it will cost is 100% not the move to make. Best bet is trade him for w.e day 2/3 picks you can get come draft time

Edited January 10, 2023 by Mr Mojo Risin

[Riverboat Ron]

Why not let him go for a compensatory 3rd like Julius Peppers? We got Sione Fua out of it.

[onmyown]

honestly we should just be trading and rolling over every superstar and draft pick for the future so we will own the entire first round in years 2048 and 2049 when Tepper is finally gone

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

People act like trading away Burns is the equivalent of getting rid of a prime Keuchly. The guy is overrated. Period.

[TheMaulClaw]

11 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Well I don’t know what letting reddick walk has to do with it; they weren’t a good match together, burns was cheaper, etc

you also can’t let passing on the trade influence the decision on contract moving forward. That’s in the past. He’s either worth a contract or he’s not. 

They were a good match and Reddick was better.

[Shocker]

10 hours ago, WarPanthers89 said:

Lol you guys kill me. He has improved every year and is a pro bowl type of player and is extremely young. This is the exact type of player that you want to retain as a core piece of your team. He has 38 sacks in his first 4 seasons (barely playing year 1) is a team captain, pro bowl player and is 24 years old. He will get better and better in his second contract. You pay for future production and we will get plenty of production from 25 year plus Burns

2 X Pro bowl already and he is 24.  You sign him to a big deal

[Cdparr7]

Not sure we have the money to resign him, Foreman, and Bozeman. 
 

We have 1 million in cap space. Say there is a 7 million increase that puts us at 8 million. We cut Shaq, Zane, Elflein, that puts us around 30 million. 
 

Restructure Donte, Woods, Thomas gives you about another 9 million so 39 million. 
 

Need about 11 million to cover draft picks. Which puts us at 28 million. 
 

Bozeman’s market value is between 15-17 million per year.

Burns value is going to be around 20 million per year but you could add it after his tag year which is 16 million hit this year which leaves puts us in the negative.

D’Onta is another 3-5 million per year and we still have other positions to fill. 

Or we can trade him, gain draft capital, and free up 16 million in cap room. 

 

[The Natural]

I want us to trade everyone on the roster and pay league minimum contracts to the bare minimum number of guys required. If we have all the draft picks and the most unspent money I'll finally be happy.

[RJK]

At this point you have to pay him. Can’t lose him for nothing and overpaying him(which they’ll do) will limit the return when they trade him in 2-3 years. 

[thunderraiden]

This reminds me of all the "no motor" bullshit you guys scrounged up (the couple still around anyways) when first ballot hall of famer Peppers was here and you all scared him off. Then you had 15 years of our top DE being "checks notes" a coke addicted felon that's out of the league and pretended like everything was all good when Peppers came back. 

Fact of the matter is, Burns would be a fuging beast on a better team and the whiners would cry when it predictably happens and he takes his place in the top 3 of the league when he actually has a good team that lets him actually take pass-rushing snaps during the game. Dude has never had a team to play with a lead in his career and still produced year after year only getting better. Its hilarious how bad of a take this is.

Edited January 10, 2023 by thunderraiden