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Go for Carr hard and save #9 pick?

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not sure that's true.

well, I haven't heard an argument that makes sense to take on a pricey win now QB and then spend a top 10 pick on a QB.    Who has done that? 

because you aren't committing to anything really.  That's no man's land. 

you sign Carr and you try to win now or you spend a top 10 pick on a QB and try to get him ready ASAP.  Those make sense. 

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its a tough spot because we either have to commit to Carr first. if we do, we are out of the QB market in the draft. 

Carr is a top 12 QB? He has played for a top 3 dysfunctional franchise. Bringing him here, with this coaching staff he would thrive. He is a team player and wants to win. If we pay him then I am all in. 

Honestly, rather have Carr then move up to #1 and give up multiple first rounders. That philosophy has NEVER worked out. 

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17 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I don’t want Carr unless we determine that we can’t get the QB(s) that we want. We are likely in the exact same draft situation next year so we need a QB. I don’t like retreads that haven’t done squat in the playoffs but I do know Carr is better than all the QBs we’ve shuffled through since Cam.

Pretty much where I'm at. I'd greatly prefer a QB via the draft. I'm just nervous about that sitting at #9.

 

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17 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, I haven't heard an argument that makes sense to take on a pricey win now QB and then spend a top 10 pick on a QB.    Who has done that? 

because you aren't committing to anything really.  That's no man's land. 

you sign Carr and you try to win now or you spend a top 10 pick on a QB and try to get him ready ASAP.  Those make sense. 

I don't see one as precluding the other.

I'll grant that it does depend somewhat on what kind of deal you give to Carr.

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All of this depends on what Carr wants and if he believes he can succeed here under Reich. We are getting a vet QB. That is a certainty. Corral and any rookie will do better if we give them a chance to develop some before throwing them into the fire. Mahomes sat an entire year behind Alex Smith. I wouldn't want to sign Carr to more than a 3 year deal. That would give us an opportunity to take a QB this year at 9 if one we like falls.

We have to get past the idea that we are going to be able to trade up. That will only work if someone is willing to move down to 9, which Chicago may not be willing to do, AND other teams don't draft the QB we want. If they view any of the top 4 as a franchise QB, they're not going to move. Chicago is rumored to want one of the top defensive prospects, and I don't think they will drop much past 4 to make sure they get him. That could require a trade up to 3 and then to 1 if we want the #1 and that will cost a damn fortune in picks and/or players. 

Again, all of this goes back to Carr and his contract demands and the strategy for building. I don't think Carr is as bad as he played with the Raiders. He could be more, he could be less. But I'm much more confident now that we have someone who can actually evaluate QB talent, whether it be Carr, or a rookie QB to move up and get. 

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4 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

The sign Carr draft Richardson in a slight trade back makes a little bit of sense. 3yr. deal with an out after 2 if Richardson is flourishing. Gives you an out either way. If he bombs at least we still have Carr.

This is what scenario I was thinking that could happen.  In essence Carr would be insurance in the event the rookie you draft just doesn't have it to be the guy. Now it's not something I would consider as a first choice.  It would be a plan C consideration to kick around. 

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36 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

We've tried this already it hasn't worked just take a QB in the 1st round and let Reich develop him. 

When is the last time we took a QB in the 1st? Cam? it's been a while 

Draft a QB in the 1st round and sign this guy:

QUARTERBACK: JACOBY BRISSETT

2022 Team: Cleveland Browns
2022 PFF Grade: 82.6

Brissett was probably better than even the Browns expected him to be in relief of the suspended Deshaun Watson across his 12 starts, finishing the season with the sixth-highest PFF overall grade and the 13th-highest PFF passing grade among quarterbacks. Brissett might not be the quarterback to lead a team to the Super Bowl, but he is a perfect bridge signal-caller for quarterback-needy teams in 2023

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-underrated-2023-free-agent-every-position

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