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Guess who ended up on today's injury report...right before the trade deadline.

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Burns isn't Bosa and shouldn't be asking for that kind of money.  Here, this is a quick table comparing the two.  The line labeled Bosa (ex) is extrapolating the numbers Bosa should have when he catches up in snaps to Burns.  Burns has most of a season on Bosa due to Bosa's injury in 2020 costing him nearly the entire year.

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Their tackle numbers look really similar, but in terms of Pressure, TFL's, Sacks . . . . Bosa is just a much, much better player.  It's what people on the Huddle here keep trying to say. 

Yes, Burns plays and does things, but Bosa impacts games.  All of the impact stats are HEAVILY in his favor.  Burns doesn't make the plays that alter the games.

Burns is REALLY GOOD.  I'm not arguing that.  I'm simply pointing out that he isn't in the same stratosphere as Bosa, and shouldn't be looking for that kind of money. 

It seems that the smartest thing we could have done last spring is included Burns in the deal with Chicago.  We'd have still had a good WR in DJ, we wouldn't have his dead cap and we wouldn't have the headache of Burns right now.

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2 hours ago, GhostWhispah said:

Cause he DESERVED an extension! Bosa won't play until he got his extension and they made him the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. Fitter would NOT even offer him a reasonable but fair extension which is Burns deserves.

https://sidelionreport.com/posts/3-players-the-detroit-lions-could-trade-for-to-bolster-lagging-pass-rush/3

https://clutchpoints.com/lions-trade-2023-nfl-deadline

Problem is Burns didn't want a reasonable extension. He wants Bosa money and this season has proven he isn’t worth it. 

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1 hour ago, BrianS said:

Burns isn't Bosa and shouldn't be asking for that kind of money.  Here, this is a quick table comparing the two.  The line labeled Bosa (ex) is extrapolating the numbers Bosa should have when he catches up in snaps to Burns.  Burns has most of a season on Bosa due to Bosa's injury in 2020 costing him nearly the entire year.

image.png.c337bccaf610c9a75363ccf2e12f5b80.png

Their tackle numbers look really similar, but in terms of Pressure, TFL's, Sacks . . . . Bosa is just a much, much better player.  It's what people on the Huddle here keep trying to say. 

Yes, Burns plays and does things, but Bosa impacts games.  All of the impact stats are HEAVILY in his favor.  Burns doesn't make the plays that alter the games.

Burns is REALLY GOOD.  I'm not arguing that.  I'm simply pointing out that he isn't in the same stratosphere as Bosa, and shouldn't be looking for that kind of money. 

It seems that the smartest thing we could have done last spring is included Burns in the deal with Chicago.  We'd have still had a good WR in DJ, we wouldn't have his dead cap and we wouldn't have the headache of Burns right now.

If Burns was pared up with a Bosa like talent he would be dominant. He just shouldn’t be the primary player you build your line around. 

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2 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

If Burns was pared up with a Bosa like talent he would be dominant. He just shouldn’t be the primary player you build your line around. 

Unlike Bosa WHO IS the guy you build your line around.  Thanks for making my point.

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