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Only way to measure success this season...


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26 minutes ago, NAS said:

is by answering the question: 

Does Bryce young look like he's going to be a franchise QB for next 10-15 years?  

If that is true by end of year, then we likely have been able to :

- protect BY with a solid OL play 

- have good weapons around to spread the ball around

- have a solid running game to keep defenses off balance

- are able to move the ball and score more than 20 pts per game consistently

- BY is able to be a playmaker and make others better 

Even if it doesn't translate to a lot of wins because we still have so many holes or thin spots on the roster, I'll be happy and excited for next year. 

On the other hands, If BY does not look like HIM, has another bad year or looks like he will be nothing more than a game manager, then it's a failure even if we win 8-9 games because it means we'll be back in QB purgatory for years to come.   

Nothing else really matters, does it?

I agree. Making that trade for a guy that just turns out to be a serviceable game manager would still be a huge blow to the franchise 

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13 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Unless our defense falls apart, I can’t imagine a scenario where a good QB + good OL + good receivers + good run game doesn’t translate to wins.

 

I use to think that but the margin for errors being so small the difference even with those things are minute. Special teams, field position and coaching can be the small differences that cause us or any team to lose games. Playing a slightly better QB is also a factor even with good QB play Rodger’s Mahomes Jackson Allen etc they’re just better, special teams missed field goals or weak punts giving the other team better starting field position consistently in the game and lastly a slightly better coach better clock  management and in game adjustments are what really lead to winning with most teams being close in talent levels. Being that most games are one score games those things are usually the difference in winning and losing but you’re also right and improvement in all those areas definitely should lead to more wins if the defensive doesn’t fall apart.

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we don't have to look like we're a playoff team. we just have to look like we're trending towards being a good team. We have to see legit potential and improvement.

and the burden of it has to spread across all fronts. if we are expecting to be carried by only one or two parts of the team, we're failing.   

All this needs to be clicking all season: OL blocking, receivers getting open and catching the ball, run game pushing forward, BY being the field general he needs to be, and the whole unit moving the ball forward into the end zone.

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