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Peter King on Panthers and Deshaun Watson


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1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

you're right, well said 

David Newton's headline tomorrow: Panthers will offer Texans their next 9 1st and 2nd round draft picks plus Christian McCaffrey AND Olivia Culpo for Deshaun Watson 

...dont forget...and some cock.

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a trade that resembles anything close to that is pure idiotic. Considering how he plays what happens when he gets hurt? Y’all are willing to mortgage the next decade for 1 player...

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So,

  • #8 overall in 2021, our 2nd pick in 2021
  • 1st round in 2022
  • 3rd round in 2023
  • CMC
  • Teddy
  • Robby Anderson

The draft pick haul isn't bad, although I wouldn't want to jettison our 2nd in 2021 given how deep the OL draft is. I feel like we can get a starter with that pick.

The players are some good and some bad. We get to jettison our top two worst contracts on the roster but it would also result in a total dead cap hit of $27.2 mil in 2021 for those guys alone. Add another $4 mil in cap loss for Anderson, who I really wouldn't want to give up but would be better than some of our guys on rookie deals. But, although we would be toting $31.2 mil in dead cap, it would also free up roughly an additional $16 mil in cap space. 

If we make that move, we probably would have to get aggressive in free agency since our primary mode of adding talent is going to be reduced this offseason. Hypothetically, were this trade to happen prior to Samuel leaving, you keep him and try and obtain another effective WR to replace Robby and maybe draft a RB to replace CMC. We'd be set for years to come at QB but our margin in the draft would be razor thin.

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Let's see, so the Panthers would be Watson, a single-syllable last named DT, a couple of linebackers a few folks have heard of and 49 JAGs after making that trade. Oh yeah, with an unproven coach and a team owner who "knows football."

Yeah, that worked well in Houston last year.

How about we don't trade our rebuild in progress for someone's broken down plans?

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4 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Recap:

1. Texans contract w/ DW is ironclad, he's locked up thru 2025.

2. There is no scenario where Texans are better off without DW vs. with him.

3. Texans have no obligation to trade DW.

4. Texans won't trade DW.

5. DW does not have the stones to walk from $146,540,000.

The End.

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4 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Recap:

1. Texans contract w/ DW is ironclad, he's locked up thru 2025.

2. There is no scenario where Texans are better off without DW vs. with him.

3. Texans have no obligation to trade DW.

4. Texans won't trade DW.

5. DW does not have the stones to walk from $146,540,000.

The End.

1 and 3 are facts; 2, 4 and 5 are conjecture and subject to debate

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32 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Let's see, so the Panthers would be Watson, a single-syllable last named DT, a couple of linebackers a few folks have heard of and 49 JAGs after making that trade. Oh yeah, with an unproven coach and a team owner who "knows football."

Yeah, that worked well in Houston last year.

How about we don't trade our rebuild in progress for someone's broken down plans?

When did DJ Moore become a JAG

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Why would they want Anderson? He was great in our system, but off and on as a Jet which is the direction Houston is heading. Plus he isn’t on a rookie contract. If we do trade him, we better sign Samuel or Fuller ASAP.

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