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New Coach Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo


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3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Holcomb is his guy. The D got worse.

Some of you truly deserve to watch the .500 type football team you so badly desire

Clearly a large portion of this fan base only watches the Panthers play. You’d think the Cincy game would’ve been a good wake up call to the pro Wilks crowd. 

Wilks is the exact type of guy you make an interim HC. Absolutely nothing more 

Never said he should get hired in that post, I said he did an outstanding job. Which he did. 

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9 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

Not sure Wilks gets to keep Holcomb if he stays, though I realize he prefers that. If I’m Tepper and settle on Wilks, he would need to hire 2 new coordinators. Something along the lines of Reich and Fangio would work. 

The only reason I don’t want Wilks.  I knew he’d try to keep Holcomb.  That dude blows.  

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17 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

 

For the last 2 years the Dallas offense has made major mistakes in the last  2 min that ended their playoff games. They seemed not prepared ill prepared.  Is that on McCarthy or Moore? There are some criticisms in this Athletic article. https://theathletic.com/4118977/2023/01/23/dallas-cowboys-season-playoffs/

Reminder...last year, final play:

With 14 seconds left in their 2022 wild-card matchup, the Cowboys called a quarterback draw that Dak Prescott took too far, and then the quarterback and the entire offensive line collectively forgot that they cannot spot the ball themselves. The clock expired as the umpire tried to fight his way through the line to spot the ball himself. Everyone was stunned. 

Football 101.

 

Then on Sunday in their NFC divisional round matchup, with 76 yards to go and time for likely only one snap, McCarthy called a gadget play with running back Ezekiel Elliott alone at center with no supporting linemen near him and Prescott in shotgun behind him. As soon as Elliott got off the very slow snap, he was pancaked, and then Niners cornerback Jimmie Ward immediately blew up Prescott’s pass to receiver Kavontae Turpin. Game over. 

Last season at least the plays leading up to the game-ending disaster were smart calls that took the Cowboys receivers immediately out of bounds to stop the clock. This season, the entire final drive was a mess, and by my own generous count Dallas wasted 23 seconds from their final punt and their final drive, enough time for about four more plays. 

We can’t discuss Dallas’s final play yet because we need to talk about another waste of time on the Cowboys’ final drive. On third-and-1 at their own 15 yard line, Prescott passed to tight end Dalton Schultz, who was hit by Niners cornerback Charvarius Ward as he went out of bounds. The contact made Schultz take a step backward along the sideline. The clock didn’t stop in this situation because the officials determined he wasn’t moving forward when going out of bounds, which is required to stop the clock. Fox Sports color analyst Greg Olsen said, “You have to be going forwards if you are contacted going out of bounds. You have to fight through that contact!”

 

“Charvarius Ward,” Olsen said. “He knows the rule, they coach that, you’ve got to turn up and be physical into contact and get that official to stop the clock.”

To be fair to Schultz, he’d played an entire game up to this point and was likely exhausted, and his hustle back to the near hash after going out of bounds suggests both that he knew this rule and he knew the officials kept the clock running. But the Niners’ awareness in this situation and Schultz’ lack of pushback is an example of the importance of coaching up the tiny details that matter in two-minute situations.  

Schultz’ lack of awareness here points to bad coaching. The best teams want to make sure their players know every rule that relates to the game clock and remind them of the rules frequently, because that knowledge is crucial for success in any two-minute drill.

 

This year, final play:

 

“It appears that Zeke is going to go to center,” Olsen said as Dallas sent its offensive linemen out wide for what would be the Cowboys’ last shot in this game. “This looks like my flag football team. Obviously Mike McCarthy has been working on his end of game scenario, and let’s see what he’s got!” 

As soon Olsen spoke that last line, you and I both knew there was no way this was going to end well. After seeing the strange look from Dallas, the Niners immediately called their final timeout to get their defense in position. This is typically where a functional offense would change up the play to catch the defense off guard. There are obviously only so many third-and-10 plays for a team to have a chance to score from its own 24-yard-line with six seconds left, but Dallas went back into the exact same look it had already given the Niners, with Elliott at center, totally alone, and the linemen out wide. 

Has anyone ever seen a play like this before? 
“Never,” texted one former head coach and offensive coordinator when I sent him that question with the video clip.

 

TLDR:

Cowboys seem poorly coached.  How much is on McCarthy, how much is Moore?

I am not sure consecutive 12-5 seasons meet the threshold of "poorly coached." The 2021 playoffs loss was a disappointment as a higher seed at home but they were supposed to lose the game that they just lost.

So, while those crunch time play calls were both unfortunate I do think both McCarthy and Moore are getting way too much shade thrown at them. Consider that had Dak Prescott not heaved two insanely bad INT's this very well could have been a comfortable Cowboys victory.

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3 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

You guys realize we both went for it on 4th down more than our opponents this season, and we also converted more 4th downs, at a higher rate, than our opponents this season too. 
 

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Just spare us the spiel and admit your personal bar for the head coaching position is simply being marginally better than Matt Rhule and as or more conservative on gamedays than pre Riverboat Rivera. It isn't 2003 or 2011 anymore. Adapt or get run over is the way of the league. Last I checked the facts say Wilks team still has some cleat marks from the Super Bowl contenders the Bengals running us over. Cope more.

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Regarding Wilks, I know we'll acknowledge the Bucs, Steelers, & Bengals games as stinkers but are we ever going to bring up whatever the hell that Rams game was on his interim debut?  Sure, even more difficult with a week turnaround from being a position coach (after being out of the league for 2 years) to HC down multiple staff, but what even was that game? Felt like he was instructed to showcase CMC and avoid scoring.   We still had McAdoo and our offensive all well in-tact.  The offense was unchanged and that game happened.   

It would bum me out beyond belief if he's the choice.  It's not even a safe choice, in his 30+ year career, he's been a DC for a grand total of 2 seasons at the NFL level.  A HC/IHC for 1 1/2 with mixed results.  And bottom line--it's not just that he's from Rivera's staff.  He followed Ron from CHI to SD to QC for 15+ years.  He was his AHC, helped run Tuesday-Thursdays.  They are as tight as it gets and it would feel like this weird offshoot/extension of that era I want no part of anymore.  Time to move on.  

 

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12 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am not sure consecutive 12-5 seasons meet the threshold of "poorly coached." The 2021 playoffs loss was a disappointment as a higher seed at home but they were supposed to lose the game that they just lost.

So, while those crunch time play calls were both unfortunate I do think both McCarthy and Moore are getting way too much shade thrown at them. Consider that had Dak Prescott not heaved two insanely bad INT's this very well could have been a comfortable Cowboys victory.

It's also not considering what they were able to do this season with Cooper Rush once Dak went down. Moore deserves a lot of credit for that. 

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1 minute ago, Bear Hands said:

Regarding Wilks, I know we'll acknowledge the Bucs, Steelers, & Bengals games as stinkers but are we ever going to bring up whatever the hell that Rams game was on his interim debut?  Sure, even more difficult with a week turnaround from being a position coach (after being out of the league for 2 years) to HC down multiple staff, but what even was that game? Felt like he was instructed to showcase CMC and avoid scoring.   We still had McAdoo and our offensive all well in-tact.  The offense was unchanged and that game happened.   

It would bum me out beyond belief if he's the choice.  It's not even a safe choice, in his 30+ year career, he's been a DC for a grand total of 2 seasons at the NFL level.  A HC/IHC for 1 1/2 with mixed results.  And bottom line--it's not just that he's from Rivera's staff.  He followed Ron from CHI to SD to QC for 15+ years.  He was his AHC, helped run Tuesday-Thursdays.  They are as tight as it gets and it would feel like this weird offshoot/extension of that era I want no part of anymore.  Time to move on.  

 

I don't really want Wilks to be the HC but I can't pin the Ram's game on him. They had just fired Rhule and Snow, that is a significant shakeup to the team. Still trying to get his footing that game. He gets a pass from me there. 

The Pittsburgh, Bucs 2, Baltimore, and Bengals we all got outcoached.

Just realized we got swept by the AFCN this season, closest game being the one rhule coached. If Wilks' team identity was tough and physical, then the division to prove that against was the AFCN and we failed miserably at that. 

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