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Bryce’s new look. He looks like a grown up


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7 hours ago, PantherChris said:

Parley it with Cannalles to win coach of the year on fanduel 

I tried to put coach of year in a parlay and FanDuel wouldn't allow it probably for that reason. If a high odds qb wins MVP his coach is probably winning coach of year. 

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10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Bryce is trying to prove he can be considered a legit starter and the majority of our receiving corps are young guys with potential but little to no proven NFL production. This is highly unlikely to be an MVP season for Bryce. We're just trying to figure out if he's going to take the Jared Goff path or the Justin Fields path.

 

I agree, but stranger things have happened.

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If he keeps making it around the curve, I'll be happy. He gave us some reason to look forward to this coming season. He has a good chance to come roaring out of the blocks with the schedule we have ahead of us.

If he gets something to build upon, who knows where we can go. It's too soon to hope for playoffs, but wouldn't it be nice?

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19 hours ago, Seltzer said:

Mahomes didn't play at all his rookie season.

That is one massive thing about his career people have somehow memory-holed.

The Chiefs had Alex Smith, and decided the best thing would be to give Mahomes a year to develop (even though Smith wasn't great). And obviously the same with Jordan Love, etc.

I wonder how different the narrative would be on Bryce if he hadn't had been put in such dysfunction his rookie season. 

If Bryce hadn't seen the field until the 2nd half of this past year, it would be completely different.

Regardless the past is the past, the ink is dry, and he gets a chance to have a say in the narrative of his career this year.

He has to perform, and I think he will.

And I love Cam to death, and while he probably did have better MVP odds going into 2015 than Bryce does going into this season, no one had Cam seriously on the MVP radar going into 2015. 

 

Mahomes did play one game in his rookie year, the last game of the season in which the Chiefs had already secured a playoff spot and had nothing really to play for. Put up almost 300 yards in a win. I think that's what the previous poster was referring to.

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On 6/3/2025 at 2:58 AM, lightsout said:

 

I think he's answered it partially. After his benching, he showed he CAN BE the guy. The only way to know if he truly is is to see how he starts the season. If he builds off the end of the season last year, we got our guy. Any inconsistency, any regression that is more than an "off game", we have to be prepared to cut ties and move on. It's a cutthroat league for QBs right now. Guys have played better and ended up a backup on a new team the next season. 

He is nowhere near earning that 5th year of his deal.

His play has to improve A LOT for us to even consider it. 

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13 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

He is nowhere near earning that 5th year of his deal.

His play has to improve A LOT for us to even consider it. 

 

He played like a top half of the league QB to close the year. I think he is near earning his 5th, provided he continues that trajectory. 

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46 minutes ago, lightsout said:

He played like a top half of the league QB to close the year. 

Honestly, that's the worst case scenario.  Just good enough to not be obnoxious, not really good enough to carry the team.  I want last game of the year Bryce or first game of the year Bryce.  

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I know there is this ideal out there of how the next Mahomes, Rogers, Allen will manifest.

 

But Ill never forget how Jake just blew the scene up in '03

 

Lets let the dude cook this season and quit trying to make him fit someone else's trajectory.  By week 5 we will all know if he has it or if he is just another Leaf.

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