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Official Panthers at Seahawks GameDay Thread!

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TheRumGone Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

It's hilarious.  We've had multiple receivers beat their man over the top and Bryce overthrew them by 15 yards lol.  Anything to fit our arguments I guess lol.

15 yards? You’re a child. He’s had two opportunities. One quit on the route and he overthrew one. 2 games for a rookie. Again the most emotional poster on this board. This offense is a fuging mess. He’s not a physical freak like Richardson. We’ve known this. We chose to support him this way with THIS playcalling as a rookie.

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5 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

I always wanted whoever we picked in the draft to sit and learn for a year anyway. Mahomes did it. Rogers did it. Brady did it. The fact Dalton has made throws or at least able to throw the ball in the face of pressure, unlike Young who would fumble it or get sacked, just further proves that Young needs more time to learn. There is no need to rush him back and ruin him.

There are way more top picks that didn’t sit and did fine. Mahomes was behind a first overall pick who had just been to the playoffs several years in a row. Rodgers was a late first rounder playing behind a HOF. Brady was a 6th rounder by and also behind a prior first overall pick. Young was the number 1 pick behind nobody. If he didn’t start right away that would be a really bad sign. 

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3 minutes ago, Varking said:

While I’d understand sticking with Dalton, I can’t see any way Bryce is healthy and they don’t let him play. He’s got to learn on the job. 

Still half a game left.  Outside of Dalton seeing a busted coverage….no one around Dalton has done diddly this game.   Got to see Dalton play an entire game with predictable playcalling, pressure and no one getting open first.  That’s likely going to end up going bad for Andy over the course of a full game.  

3rd quarter has generally been the bad quarter to date 

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1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

15 yards? You’re a child. He’s had two opportunities. One quit on the route and he overthrew one. 2 games for a rookie. Again the most emotional poster on this board. This offense is a fuging mess. He’s not a physical freak like Richardson. We’ve known this. We chose to support him this way with THIS playcalling as a rookie.

What I love is he talks about overthrowing WRs on deep routes then turns around and says he has a weak arm too. Literally the biggest hater of any NFL player on here since that one dude obsessed with hating on Cam 

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Just now, CRA said:

Still half a game left.  Outside of Dalton seeing a busted coverage….no one around Dalton has done diddly this game.   Got to see Dalton play an entire game with predictable playcalling, pressure and no one getting open first.  That’s likely going to end up going bad for Andy over the course of a full game. 

Looks like once AT makes a cut and gets open, Dalton has been hitting him. 

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      If you plug Bryce onto the Pro Bowl roster you might have a chance to compete for a SB. If he's surrounded by top tier talent with a top tier defense on the other side, a field flipping punter, and a kicker good from 60+ you might have a chance. But that means you basically have to recreate Saban's Bama in the NFL and that's impossible... and Bryce couldn't win a championship in that environment either. What the Panthers didn't realize when they got so obsessed with his "PG mentality" was that what they were looking st was a "barely checks the box PG". The basketball equivalent of Bryce would be an undersized PG with marginal athleticism who can make the basic plays but adds nothing to the team in terms of elevating the overall team. Not a great shooter, not a great defender, not a great driver. Just a guy who can basically get you into the offense and be a matador on defense. Basically a placeholder while you look to upgrade the PG position. 
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