Mingos Route Running

[ForJimmy]

20 minutes ago, CRA said:

the dude who made the pro bowl his rookie year?  while setting the rookie reception record, winning OROY, etc. 

Did they call him a bad or poor man's version of Boldin?  Boldin was a certified monster out the gate. 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jonathan-mingo/32004d49-4e17-0999-c137-d684c1d1ab38

It's just comparing their style of play.  Big physical WRs that will fight for the catch.  This was pre-draft so yeah they didn't know what situation he would be drafted into.  

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/draft-analyst-compares-jonathan-mingo-to-anquan-boldin

Looks like they have similar athletic ability as well.  

Edited October 26, 2023 by ForJimmy

[MasterAwesome]

2 hours ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Saw this on Reddit but some dynasty fantasy number crunchers found that if a rookie receiver has 525 yards or more their rookie year it’s around 90% hit rate that the player turns out to be a good to great pro. He’s still on pace to break that around the 575-600 mark. 

Moral of the story is patience.

No wonder David Gettis's career never blossomed  He just barely missed the cut.

[SetfreexX]

I remember all of the Dj Moore can't run routes threads back when he was a rookie...

Some of y'all gotta chill, he's a 2nd round WR, this not a Jefferson or Chase selection. 

And if you wanna compare him to his physical comp in Aj Brown...it still takes time, Aj was traded right before his 4th year if memory serves, and most couldn't name him prior to hhis time in Philly.

[CBDellinger]

48 minutes ago, CRA said:

Is that old saying really true anymore?  at least in terms of the really good ones. 

sure feels like most WRs that turn out to be good in recent history....show it pretty early.  Sure feels like it is skewing more 1-2 seasons now. 

On the whole it is... you'll have some exceptions.  Most of them come in so under developed at route running it takes them a little while to hone their craft, especially guys drafted outside the 1st round. 

[DJ feed me moore]

crazy there was this guy josh downs whos now the WR1 in indy who's specialty is route running.

[jb2288]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Numerous people have questioned whether they even teach good route running at the college level anymore.

A lot of offenses of simplified down to the point where the receivers only need to know a few basic routes. It's made the transition from college to pro more difficult than it used to be at that spot.

That was a big knock on him, he came from a Lane Kiffin backyard football team. It’s going to take him a year easily to adjust but he has size and speed. I think Brown gets more creative with him and it helps a lot 

[Panthercougar68]

1 hour ago, MasterAwesome said:

No wonder David Gettis's career never blossomed  He just barely missed the cut.

Gotta trust the number crunchers 

[amcoolio]

3 hours ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Saw this on Reddit but some dynasty fantasy number crunchers found that if a rookie receiver has 525 yards or more their rookie year it’s around 90% hit rate that the player turns out to be a good to great pro. He’s still on pace to break that around the 575-600 mark. 

Moral of the story is patience.

Puka must be on pace to break Jerry Rice, he's nearing 1000 already

[WarHeel]

I wanted Josh Downs. Dude is balling out for Indy.

Edited October 26, 2023 by WarHeel

[Byrdman4real]

5 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

I wanted Josh Downs. Dude is balling out for Indy.

Same here

[outlaw4]

I remain baffled on why we drafted a receiver with route running as a weakness when - based on the staff compensation and the QB we drafted - route running would the most valued trait in whomever we brought in. Not to say Mingo can't work. Just that he's not the best solution right now given the circumstances.

Side note: the same guy also critized Justin Herbert as a one-read guy. 

Edited October 26, 2023 by outlaw4

[Wolfcop]

Think about this too - Mingo was a whisker away from scoring in a 99 yard TD in his first game. 

[Varking]

Mingo didn’t even have big college production in Kiffins fast paced offense. That was my biggest concern around him. I think they had 1k yard receivers every year up until he was the top WR on the roster and he couldn’t get close to it. 861 in year 4. Never a big touchdown guy either. He just… never really produced like a top round pick kind of player. 

[RumHam]

i see a combination of shitty play design and shitty decision making. sounds like the panthers.